Dark horse QB option: Derek Carr?

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He threw for 4100 yards and 27 TDs vs. 9 INTs this year. You damn straight I'll take that.

We just tried to trade #8 and more for a guy who had nearly identical numbers this year and is four years older.

Plus Carr isn't likely to generate the kind of offers that Stafford did.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

I don't think giving up a lot of draft capital is wise. He is a good candidate to get cut. He isn't a Watson or Stafford level QB.

He's definitely not. With all the need at QB out there and his ability and age, there would absolutely be a robust trade market if Gruden wants to move on. If he does, it'll be his undoing. They aren't in a position to likely get an upgrade.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Plus Carr isn't likely to generate the kind of offers that Stafford did.

Probably not quite as high but I think he'd fetch more than most of the Huddle is thinking. We have people who think he's a risk to be cut. That ain't gonna happen.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's definitely not. With all the need at QB out there and his ability and age, there would absolutely be a robust trade market if Gruden wants to move on. If he does, it'll be his undoing. They aren't in a position to likely get an upgrade.

Yeah, I suppose he is. That is a tempting contract. I was only looking at it from a "cutting them costs the Raiders almost nothing" perspective.

I think I am underrating him, as well. This market is crazy right now and that is a VERY good contract.

I just can't fathom why you would elevate Mariota over him.

[Wanderlai]

I’d just as soon draft a QB than go after these low rung QBs. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I just can't fathom why you would elevate Mariota over him.

Well, you'd have to start with the premise that you're Jon Gruden.

From there, a lot of things become possible.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Well, you'd have to start with the premise that you're Jon Gruden.

From there, a lot of things become possible.

Yeah, that guy has an unhealthy QB fetish. Not in a good way.

[BrianS]

I would 100% ok with Derek Carr.  Look at this:

All the guy has done since entering the league is get better and better and better.  27 TD, 9 INT's, 4100 yards last year.  Almost 8 yards per attempt.  YES PLEASE.

He's relatively young, with another 5-7 years of prime football in him unless he gets abused.

Oh, and there's this:

Five game winning drives last year.  Hi there clutch QB.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, that guy has an unhealthy QB fetish. Not in a good way.

Gruden's long had what I call a lottery ticket mentality when it comes to quarterbacks.

"Okay, we tried this one and it wasn't an instant winner so let's buy another one."

That's not unusual for fans, but it's not a good mindset for a professional coach.

Edited February 2, 2021 by Mr. Scot

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Gruden's long had what I call a lottery ticket mentality when it comes to quarterbacks.

"Okay, we tried this one and it wasn't an instant winner so let's try this one."

That's not unusual for fans, but it's not a good mindset for a professional coach.

The constant QB churn was absurd in Tampa. It was funny because no matter how many he always churned through, it was always the same guy or two that were "The Guy."

[TheCasillas]

21 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

While still on the hook for TB's dead money so this makes no sense. Even when it came to Stafford, no one is trading for TB to lessen his hit on the books. 

The colts would. Especialyl if they draft a young qb. They dont have a qb on the roster with NFL experience. Also, if we trade TB - whatever team that gets him , wil have him on a one year deal with the majority of the deal paid for by us. Its not going to be hard to offload Teddy.

Edited February 2, 2021 by TheCasillas

[Jaxel]

Stafford was a special case in which the Rams desperately wanted to unload Goff. I don't see Carr or the other QBs getting that kind of return for their QBs. (Speaking in relatives to value, obviously Watson will command more compensation).

Edited February 2, 2021 by Jaxel

[SetfreexX]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

The colts would. Especialyl if they draft a young qb. They dont have a qb on the roster with NFL experience. Also, if we trade TB - whatever team that gets him , wil have him on a one year deal with the majority of the deal paid for by us. Its not going to be hard to offload Teddy.

Doubt it, they still have Jacoby Brissett who people could argue is better than TB or at the very least a lateral move, and they took Jacob Eason last year. 

If they make a QB move it's for a clear upgrade. 

[TheCasillas]

Just now, SetfreexX said:

Doubt it, they still have Jacoby Brissett who people could argue is better than TB or at the very least a lateral move, and they took Jacob Eason last year. 

If they make a QB move it's for a clear upgrade. 

Jacoby is a free agent

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianapolis-colts/jacoby-brissett-19045/