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Wentz update: Trade is close, with three teams involved

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I just didn't consider the WFT due to them being in the same division. I doubt the Eagles would do it unless they just blew away everyone else's offer.

I mean, Philly has sent an over the hill QB to the Skins before in a trade *cough* McNabb *cough*

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15 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

TBD. He is an elite talent. If you whiff though.....OOF.

IMO, Chicago fans should want this. You have to figure it is either a HR deal or you get to finally fire your head coach. 

I went over and read Bears Forum and the feeling I got is that they really really really want Wentz 

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I just didn't consider the WFT due to them being in the same division. I doubt the Eagles would do it unless they just blew away everyone else's offer.

Washington gets linked to every available quarterback, same as us.

Whether or not the Eagles would do it is a valid question.

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14 minutes ago, Waldo said:

He was elite and looks ruined. Bad contract and living off of past realities. This is looking like a disaster in the making. It sucks but it looks like the buyer is going to be had in this trade. 

Well the receiving team also owes him almost no money on that contract. After next season he can be cut with basically zero cap hit. 

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The Eagles reportedly told all of their head coaching prospects that they were sticking with Wentz.

They also asked interviewees questions about how they would handle Wentz as part of the process.

When the process was over, they hired Nick Sirianni in part because of his connection with one of Wentz's former mentors in Frank Reich.

And now they're set to trade him away.

Real smooth...

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8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I just didn't consider the WFT due to them being in the same division. I doubt the Eagles would do it unless they just blew away everyone else's offer.

Or if they believe he sucks (he does) and want to sabotage a division rival...

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

The Eagles reportedly told all of their head coaching prospects that they were sticking with Wentz.

They also asked interviewees questions about how they would handle Wentz as part of the process.

When the process was over, they hired Nick Sirianni in part because of his connection with one of Wentz's former mentors in Frank Reich.

And now they're set to trade him away.

Real smooth...

Texans-esque?

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I actually was talking to my buddy who is a Bears fan and this deal really makes a lot of sense if you are a Bears fan. On the one hand, you get a potentially elite QB. If that flames out next season, however, you cut ties with him and have no cap hit, you probably get a new GM and head coach(both on the hot seat).

Biggest downside is probably a late first rounder that you jettisoned this season and might have easily been squandered by the current GM. 

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

I actually was talking to my buddy who is a Bears fan and this deal really makes a lot of sense if you are a Bears fan. On the one hand, you get a potentially elite QB. If that flames out next season, however, you cut ties with him and have no cap hit, you probably get a new GM and head coach(both on the hot seat).

Biggest downside is probably a late first rounder that you jettisoned this season and might have easily been squandered by the current GM. 

Pace and Nagy probably do really need to hit a home run this season.

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

Well the receiving team also owes him almost no money on that contract. After next season he can be cut with basically zero cap hit. 

That's cool. Still spending a first on a hurt QB is not a good move or a win. Its just pissing away a first on a long shot. Miami should be used as an example of why you don't do this.

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2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

That's cool. Still spending a first on a hurt QB is not a good move or a win. Its just pissing away a first on a long shot. Miami should be used as an example of why you don't do this.

I mean, it actually worked out pretty well for Miami in the long run. They pivoted from their mistake quickly. 

That's actually why some of these trades aren't a bad deal depending on what you give up. The pivot can be quick and potentially cheap.

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4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I actually was talking to my buddy who is a Bears fan and this deal really makes a lot of sense if you are a Bears fan. On the one hand, you get a potentially elite QB. If that flames out next season, however, you cut ties with him and have no cap hit, you probably get a new GM and head coach(both on the hot seat).

Biggest downside is probably a late first rounder that you jettisoned this season and might have easily been squandered by the current GM. 

Now that makes sense.

Also, just go ahead and get rid of the HC & GM if you have to trade picks away to not have them waste them. Most owners are terrible at this football thing. 

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