Where's our cap going?

[Davidson Deac II]

51 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

He's an average LB, making top of the heap money...and not playing the most important spot in the LB corps.

His salary and cap number last year was 7.2 million.  Which puts him as the 28th highest paid linebacker for last year if memory serves.  If we cut him next year, that will mean his average pay for the years he played under this contract will be around 10 million per year.  Which places him in the 20's for linebackers, and outside the top 10 for inside linebackers.  In the end, that is what impacts us the most.  He will be an average linebacker making average money.  Of course, that is if we cut him.  That remains to be seen.  

Edited March 10, 2021 by Davidson Deac II

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 hour ago, TheRumGone said:

Linebacker and running back making top 5 percentage of the cap. This is why we suck. We need to start valuing positions heavier than those two.

also teddy lol

Exactly. What gives me hope is our new guy  Fitterer, he won’t make the same mistakes Marty did.

[Toomers]

1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

His salary and cap number last year was 7.2 million.  Which puts him as the 28th highest paid linebacker for last year if memory serves.  If we cut him next year, that will mean his average pay for the years he played under this contract will be around 10 million per year.  Which places him in the 20's for linebackers, and outside the top 10 for inside linebackers.  In the end, that is what impacts us the most.  He will be an average linebacker making average money.  Of course, that is if we cut him.  That remains to be seen.  

That’s not true at all. His cap hits for those two years would be 14M total. Then there is the 13.75M in dead cap that hits when they cut him. Add in the 1.5M that got tacked onto his 2019 cap hit when he signed in Dec 2019, and that’s 29.25M for two average seasons from an off-ball LB. Where does just under 15M/yr put him on these lists? 

Edited March 10, 2021 by Toomers

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, thefuzz said:

If that makes you sleep better.

He's an average LB, making top of the heap money...and not playing the most important spot in the LB corps.

Bad signing period.  Should have never inked the CMC or the Shaq deal.

So you believe that letting a player of CMC's skill walk is a sustainable way for continued success. Homegrown talent is really what you want; it just so happens that CMC is perhaps the best, or at least the most productively versatile, at his position. 

Edited March 10, 2021 by top dawg

[thefuzz]

7 minutes ago, top dawg said:

So you believe that letting a player of CMC's skill walk is a sustainable way for continued success. Homegrown talent is really what you want; it just so happens that CMC is perhaps the best, or at least the most productively versatile, at his position. 

Do you know that CMC had a 4 year contract with a 5th year team option and Marty Hurney signed him to an extension immediately following what will likely be his best year as a pro after only his 3rd year of his rookie contract?

Or, maybe, just maybe, we could have used that money, combined with Shaq's money to sign Bradberry and Moton to extensions last season, or for James, even the season before?

Nah, let's pay an off ball average LB top tier money, and a running back on a rookie deal with 2 years remaining to the top of the pay scale for his position.

[top dawg]

Just now, thefuzz said:

Do you know that CMC had a 4 year contract with a 5th year team option and Marty Hurney signed him to an extension immediately following what will likely be his best year as a pro after only his 3rd year of his rookie contract?

Or, maybe, just maybe, we could have used that money, combined with Shaq's money to sign Bradberry and Moton to extensions last season, or for James, even the season before?

Nah, let's pay an off ball average LB top tier money, and a running back on a rookie deal with 2 years remaining to the top of the pay scale for his position.

Not referring to Shaq. I would've let him walk at that number. CMC earned his contract. He's not that much higher than guys in his tier. With what would've been the normal cap increases, his numbers would've become a bargain sooner than they will now due to Covid. I don't see Saints fans crying over Kamara or Vikings fans crying over Cook. Sometimes it is what it is and the player is that talented and productive.

[thefuzz]

18 hours ago, top dawg said:

Not referring to Shaq. I would've let him walk at that number. CMC earned his contract. He's not that much higher than guys in his tier. With what would've been the normal cap increases, his numbers would've become a bargain sooner than they will now due to Covid. I don't see Saints fans crying over Kamara or Vikings fans crying over Cook. Sometimes it is what it is and the player is that talented and productive.

You don't understand what you are typing, or you do and you don't understand smart football decisions.

You clearly don't understand the differences between rookie deals signed as 1st rounders, and the rest of the lot, if you are comparing CMC to Cook and Kamara.

[Snake]

Bridgewaters is the most concerning.