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5 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

It should also be mentioned that starting in 2022 Watsons cap hits will be 21% of the projected salary cap.... no draft picks and certainly no FA spending sprees.

We will more than likely shed Teddy’s $20 million hit next year which would be over 10%. So we are looking at a 10% increase with far superior QB play. We will have money for FAs. 

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2 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

There's no real comparable situation to this, honestly.  Hard to know the outcome. 

This is definitely a gamble. But I'm happy to have an owner and GM willing to gamble to win. Playing conservative hasn't gotten us a superbowl yet. 

The line between gambling and stupidity is a fine line my friend.

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55 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Our defense allowed 62 fewer points than the Texans...  The Texans scored 34 more points than us, despite having a QB that accounted for twice the TDs...  Our roster is more talented and/or better coached at many positions... but not the one that matters most.  Even if our defense regresses *next year*, we have multiple years to build more talent around Watson and win it all.

Build around Watson with what? The draft picks you're trading to acquire him? Lol

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Just now, ImaginaryKev said:

You just threw that out there, no one wants to part with all that

Thats been the main reports for sure on the draft picks, three 1sts++ have been on every report as the starting price. Two defenders was in others, the "GET WATSON NO MATTER WHAT" have posted about including Chinn, Burns, Brown. Doesnt matter so long we get Watson. With the current roster and OL, what is your limit?

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4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

We will more than likely shed Teddy’s $20 million hit next year which would be over 10%. So we are looking at a 10% increase with far superior QB play. We will have money for FAs. 

The cap savings on shedding TB is wouldn't be the full 20m, But I am curious how you get a 10% increase, even disregarding that fact how going from a 20m hit to a 40M dollar hit is 10%.

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1 minute ago, Waldo said:

There is a chance we could be tho. The range of possibilities actually has a chunk which consists of worse than the last 5 years. Again look at the Jags and Jets. If we fug up we could end up in a couple of years of cleanup before we talk turnaround. I would use the Texans as an example of how bad it can get but they are special bad right now. 

turnaround? we already suck and have for a while. the texans had 10 wins the year before last and 11 wins the year before that. I bet they are much worse after watson is gone though.

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