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Panthers Training Camp - Tuesday Camp Thread

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1 hour ago, Zod said:

I have yet to see Terrace Marshall body catch anything. Dude is all hands. 

The one thing I didn't pick up on when I was a young Draft enthusiast was the importance of contested catches - my evaluations of WRs were way off. 

Now it's the #1 thing I look for in a WR prospect. Marshall has it in spades. 

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1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

at the end of the video he slaps Ibe's helmet like good job, or am I miseeing this? 

I think he was pointing in his face and yelling at him because he waves for the stretcher.  I will watch it again from your perspective...I think he was upset about the hit because the hit was a penalty and had nothing to do with the outcome (dropped pass).  Safeties in today's NFL are coached NOT to do this very thing.

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Just now, MHS831 said:

I think he was pointing in his face and yelling at him because he waves for the stretcher.  I will watch it again from your perspective...I think he was upset about the hit because the hit was a penalty and had nothing to do with the outcome (dropped pass).  Safeties in today's NFL are coached NOT to do this very thing.

Yeah, ive watched a few times. Im having trouble getting a clear cut view of what happened based on the angle. After watching the video about 8x, there is only one player on the field that responds to the hit like "Oh poo" and I think its Dan Arnold (or thompson). Everyone else are non emotive. 

We will find out though. Sucks for Kirkwood.

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1 minute ago, thunderraiden said:

He is 100% screaming "JT GET THE F OFF THE FIELD" Followed with a hand motion for the stretcher to come out.

how in the hell do you hear that? haha. Im wearing $500 headphones and running dolby atmos... I think i hear someone saying "fuging" but even that is a stretch. 

I can see the hand motion beeing bring on the stretcher, but I feel like the coach would have prioritized calling for a stretcher before yelling at a player...

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2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Yeah, ive watched a few times. Im having trouble getting a clear cut view of what happened based on the angle. After watching the video about 8x, there is only one player on the field that responds to the hit like "Oh poo" and I think its Dan Arnold (or thompson). Everyone else are non emotive. 

We will find out though. Sucks for Kirkwood.

I think you saw the waving for the paramedics as the slapping of the helmet.  But the coach seems pissed before that moment. He had a better view.

I see the shoulder lowered and he seems to enter the hit from the side--trying not to have helmet to helmet contact, but he was trying to hit Kirkwood.  The first day of pads makes people hit hungry and they crave the contact--maybe that was it.

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6 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I think he was upset about the hit because the hit was a penalty and had nothing to do with the outcome (dropped pass).  Safeties in today's NFL are coached NOT to do this very thing.

Revisiting this. How crazy is it that when we were growing up coachee would be hype in this situation. Wild how much the league has learned from the past. 

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2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Revisiting this. How crazy is it that when we were growing up coachee would be hype in this situation. Wild how much the league has learned from the past. 

My coaches frothed at the mouth over this kind of hit.  I am not sure that he knew Kirkwood was hurt until he saw that he was not getting up, which explains the reason he did not call for the stretcher/paramedics earlier. We will hear about this later, I am sure.

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1 minute ago, Jorgie said:

Looked like kirkwood was tackled at the legs and as he was falling forward Ibe came through and cleaned him

He is taught to pull back, but look at this from Ibe's perspective:

He is trying to make the team against the odds, so he is pressing to make a play. 

It is the first day with pads on, which makes players itch for contact after 7 days (or so) of pretending.

Perfect storm for a play like this...he will remember this decision the rest of his life...hope Kirkwood can't say the same.

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