Artificial turf should be banned in the NFL.

[Eazy-E]

I absolutely hated the fact that Tepper decided to ditch the grass for turf in the offseason. I get it is a penny pinching move and even with all the money he is saving he still isn't having the end zones painted black. 

The NFLPA was pushing to have turf banned last year although I don't know what ever came of it. Clearly the NFL doesn't care nor does our owner as we just switched our field. I'm wondering how Tepper is feeling after seeing our first round pick and our best player go down on non contact injuries due to turf.

I did some research on turf and some of the number are pretty staggering.

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Players have a 28% higher rate of non-contact lower extremity injuries when playing on artificial turf. Of those non-contact injuries, players have a 32% higher rate of non-contact knee injuries on turf and a staggering 69% higher rate of non-contact foot/ankle injuries on turf compared to grass.

For a league that preaches player safety this is just insane. Thursday Night Football is another safety issue all on it own.

Take FIFA for example. For as terrible and corrupt an organization as FIFA, they are at least smart enough to not allow turf to ever be used in the World Cup. Oh and Tepper using the excuse to move to turf for our incoming MLS team, the majority of Pro European Football clubs play on grass and if a club wants to use turf it has to be approved by FIFA.

Look at it this way, Horn and McCaffrey would still be healthy right now if they would have been playing on grass.

Ban turf and do away with Thursday Night Football please and thank you.

[kungfoodude]

The CMC injury may just be overuse the length of his career. TBH, he is leaning towards being one of those NFL RB's just just catches the injury bug and start to break down. So, due to that, not 100% ready to say the turf was the main cause of his injury.

However, Horn's injury did smack of turf related. If so....get rid of that poo ASAP.

[SurvivalSloth]

I doubt it happens, but I sincerely hope the new stadium has the same feature that Arizona/Las Vegas's stadiums have that allow them to roll in the grass from outside.

Also, Thursday Night Football sucks. Too quick of a turn around for players to recover.

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

The CMC injury may just be overuse the length of his career. TBH, he is leaning towards being one of those NFL RB's just just catches the injury bug and start to break down. So, due to that, not 100% ready to say the turf was the main cause of his injury.

However, Horn's injury did smack of turf related. If so....get rid of that poo ASAP.

Cmac had over 700 touches in the last two seasons of Riverboat.  I said at the time that is way too much for anyone and I hope there isnt long term damage.  Welp.......

[BrianS]

I don't think you can mandate it, but I would love to see the NFL heavily incentivize natural turf.  Prime time games only played on natural turf?  I'm down for it.

 

[KillerKat]

NFL won't do anything until the public complains about it more.

[Tbe]

The American Journal of sports medicine did a 4 year study in this.

Conclusion:

The overall rate of injury on artificial turf was noninferior to that on natural grass. Within individual injury categories, a higher rate of ankle injury was found on artificial turf. No other injury subgroup demonstrated statistically significant differences between surfaces.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0363546519860522

[Eazy-E]

11 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

NFL won't do anything until the public complains about it more.

For a League that preaches about player safety it would be one of the easiest things they could do to protect players. The numbers are pretty staggering. A player is basically 33% more likely to get injured on turf compared to grass. That fuging insane.

And yet our owner who is all about modern analytics and sports science just ripped up our beautiful grass field for that poo. Shows where his interests really are… $$$$$.

[Eazy-E]

7 minutes ago, Tbe said:

The American Journal of sports medicine did a 4 year study in this.

Conclusion:

The overall rate of injury on artificial turf was noninferior to that on natural grass. Within individual injury categories, a higher rate of ankle injury was found on artificial turf. No other injury subgroup demonstrated statistically significant differences between surfaces.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0363546519860522

That articles data was from soccer. The one I pulled my numbers from was football. I don’t think the NFLPA would try to get turf banned if it was a real issue.

[electro's horse]

Houston's field is unique. Because it has to host some big stupid texas cattle show, the entire field has to be able to be removed.

it's basically a poo ton of like 15 x 15 squares with turf on them that lock together. it's why that field has been a death trap for so long; players are literally catching their cleats where the squares meet. 

this has been a problem forever but the nfl won't force the mcnairs to do anything about it

[Harbingers]

18 minutes ago, Tbe said:

The American Journal of sports medicine did a 4 year study in this.

Conclusion:

The overall rate of injury on artificial turf was noninferior to that on natural grass. Within individual injury categories, a higher rate of ankle injury was found on artificial turf. No other injury subgroup demonstrated statistically significant differences between surfaces.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0363546519860522

No ACL difference? That is surprising…

[Tbe]

12 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

That articles data was from soccer. The one I pulled my numbers from was football. I don’t think the NFLPA would try to get turf banned if it was a real issue.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/turf-type-and-nfl-injuries-part-i

[erwingloudemans88]

2 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

I absolutely hated the fact that Tepper decided to ditch the grass for turf in the offseason. I get it is a penny pinching move and even with all the money he is saving he still isn't having the end zones painted black. 

The NFLPA was pushing to have turf banned last year although I don't know what ever came of it. Clearly the NFL doesn't care nor does our owner as we just switched our field. I'm wondering how Tepper is feeling after seeing our first round pick and our best player go down on non contact injuries due to turf.

I did some research on turf and some of the number are pretty staggering.

For a league that preaches player safety this is just insane. Thursday Night Football is another safety issue all on it own.

Take FIFA for example. For as terrible and corrupt an organization as FIFA, they are at least smart enough to not allow turf to ever be used in the World Cup. Oh and Tepper using the excuse to move to turf for our incoming MLS team, the majority of Pro European Football clubs play on grass and if a club wants to use turf it has to be approved by FIFA.

Look at it this way, Horn and McCaffrey would still be healthy right now if they would have been playing on grass.

Ban turf and do away with Thursday Night Football please and thank you.

Don't like or hate the turf. But it might be the cause of horn's injury. Not a doctor but the hamstring injury is a explosive movement injury don't think the turf does anything in this regards. Might even be because he did come off the field? When the mussle goes cold and you stress is explosively you have more risk of a tear.

[Eazy-E]

1 minute ago, Harbingers said:

No ACL difference? That is surprising…

Soccer play don’t make nearly they type of cuts and moves an NFL player does.

According to data on football players, the likelihood for knee injuries is 69% higher on turf.