Chuba Hubbard is a NFL starter

[GoobyPls]

I think people here forget how mediocre as a runner Mccaffrey was his rookie season. He couldn’t break a tackle to save his life, Chubba will most likely improve 

[BrianS]

57 minutes ago, TDGone said:

He’s at 3.7 and he’s getting worst as the defense starts paying attention to him and so has our offense went backwards with him .He is terrible in the passing game .So if you like avg or below avg you must be ok with us going 500 or worst every year

Sigh.

Do you watch?  Watch him play.  Yes, his hands are not great.  This can be said for a TON of backs who have successful careers.

He's played in six games this season.  He's had exactly TWO where is YPC was less than 3.7.  Coincidentally, the same number of games Derrick Henry has been below 3.7 YPC.  I don't see too many people questioning Derrick Henry's viability.

Let's also not minimize just how BAD our line is.  They are tragic, especially in the middle where the push for running really starts.

Let's say that Chuba is "average".  It's pretty widely known that the rushing champion hasn't won the SB since 1998.  Is it REALLY that important to be "great" or can you get away with an average RB?  Seems pretty easy to argue that you can get away with an average back.

 

[TDGone]

10 minutes ago, CanePantherHornet said:

Could the reason CMC hasn't been playing is because he knows that he's gone? That injury did not look bad at all, he was barely even limping.

That’s  what I’m thinking but can you trade somebody who is on IR or would they have to make it next week

[Chad_Cota]

I don’t agree at all that Chubba is a NFL starting caliber RB now, but he could develop into one. He is a liability in the passing game. 

[Deuce_Deuce]

We need to draft another back next year, and use CMC in more creative ways. Motion out wide, throw him in the slot, take some pressure off the guys on the outside. 

It's crazy to me that y'all really think getting rid of CMC is an option. These 100 catch, 1000 yard receiving RUNNING BACK! You can win in this league running

[Deuce_Deuce]

Just now, Deuce_Deuce said:

We need to draft another back next year, and use CMC in more creative ways. Motion out wide, throw him in the slot, take some pressure off the guys on the outside. 

It's crazy to me that y'all really think getting rid of CMC is an option. These 100 catch, 1000 yard receiving RUNNING BACK! You can win in this league running

And playing good defense. We did it for years with D-Williams, Cam, and Stewart. 

[ThPantherFan]

On 10/25/2021 at 6:42 AM, Zod said:

Exhibit a)

 

That's a pass to cmc 10 times out of 10

I agree.  Chuba looks dumbfounded after the throw.

[ThPantherFan]

On 10/25/2021 at 6:51 AM, Aussie Tank said:

As much as it makes me sad probably should trade CMC when he’s healthy. Just keep churning through RBs on rookie contracts 

I hate to admit but I'm leaning that way myself.

[ThPantherFan]

On 10/25/2021 at 6:51 AM, kungfoodude said:

Sam has been throwing late

He holds that ball a long time.

[frankw]

14 minutes ago, Deuce_Deuce said:

We need to draft another back next year, and use CMC in more creative ways.

With what picks though? But even if this is the case if we draft another back we need to get out from under McCaffrey's contract and actually build an oline.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, ThPantherFan said:

He holds that ball a long time.

25th ranked in Time to Throw in the NFL. 2.89 seconds on average.

[Deuce_Deuce]

Just now, frankw said:

With what picks though? But even if this is the case if we draft another back we need to get out from under McCaffrey's contract and actually build an oline.

Gotta scout, and take the best available guy. Look, there is no quick fix for this situation. We gotta get some maulers up front for CMC and whatever quality tough runner we can draft, and you can scheme plays for these receivers. If we can sure up one side at the very least, it'll be a huge improvement.

[frankw]

1 minute ago, Deuce_Deuce said:

Gotta scout, and take the best available guy. Look, there is no quick fix for this situation. We gotta get some maulers up front for CMC and whatever quality tough runner we can draft, and you can scheme plays for these receivers. If we can sure up one side at the very least, it'll be a huge improvement.

Still have to identify the right qb moving forward while navigating the 18 million we guaranteed to Darnold next year. You are correct there is no quick fix but if we have an opportunity to draft a replacement and move on from McCaffrey we will have to reluctantly consider this. Those cap hits the next couple of years only get worse and you can't ignore trends both him and Saquon have been banged up a lot and the Giants didn't even need him or their top three receivers to make quick work of us. As others have said it isnt the 80's anymore you need someone other than an rb to be your leader.

[Deuce_Deuce]

27 minutes ago, frankw said:

Still have to identify the right qb moving forward while navigating the 18 million we guaranteed to Darnold next year. You are correct there is no quick fix but if we have an opportunity to draft a replacement and move on from McCaffrey we will have to reluctantly consider this. Those cap hits the next couple of years only get worse and you can't ignore trends both him and Saquon have been banged up a lot and the Giants didn't even need him or their top three receivers to make quick work of us. As others have said it isnt the 80's anymore you need someone other than an rb to be your leader.

Definitely need more than a RB1 to win, and you're right, Giants didn't need Barkley to beat us, but we're a bad team. Great players are the difference between playoff teams and super bowl teams. If McCaffrey is demanding Herschel Walker to Vikings value, if get it. If he's not, sometimes it's cheaper to keep her. Again, CMC is not just a running back. Tremendous value in the passing game. Let's see how he looks coming back before we pull the trigger on this kid. He's a proven commodity.