Tepper: Stop the Stadium from Being Overran on a Constant Basis

[PootieNunu]

4 hours ago, BIGH2001 said:

Exactly. Most people aren’t spending their hard-earned money on a poo product. What compelling reason is there to do so?

No compelling reason, other than to be a fan of the team. The browns sucked for years along with several other teams and their fans still turned out to support them. 

The Panthers are too young of a team overall and most people here are raised as cowboys fans or some other popular team that has won super bowls. 

This poo does not happen in other team stadiums. 

Edited November 8, 2021 by PootieNunu

[MechaZain]

Charlotte is a young team and a city full transplants, even when they're winning it's hard to combat the bigger fanbases. Hornets are a big ticket these days and I still heard MVP chants from Boston fans over my TV.

[Uwontdoit81]

20 hours ago, Shotgun said:

He doesn't care what fans are there. Money is money.

Bingo.

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, PootieNunu said:

This poo does not happen in other team stadiums. 

Sure it does.  

 

Edited November 8, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[Star Platinum]

I really don’t understand this weird obsession nfl fans always seem to have, especially this board lately with,“we have to have our own rookie or I’ll pout” I personally believe reclamation projects can work as well as a draft pick given the right guy, look at tannehill, or Palmer, or even jimmy G taking the niners to the big game, thing is there’s much more to a team than that ,and while I guess a rookie can be exciting, if you get this desperate you get josh Rosen or Justin fields. 

[Chiefzack]

5 hours ago, 45catfan said:

PSL owners have no idea who they sell to on Ticket Master.  We have 3 options when selling and only one can guarantee a Panther's fan in those seats.  That is we have to KNOW beforehand the person is a Panther's fan and sell/donate/give directly to them.  By donating tickets or selling them through Ticket Master, the purchaser is anonymous. 

The real problem as I see it isn't the PSL owners not trying to get butts in their seats, I attempt to sell mine each and every week that I don't attend.  The problem is apathy with this team because they are SO BAD that unless you figuratively...sometimes literally give the seats away, the fair weather fans won't even bite. 

I listed my tickets yesterday at just about 50% off face value and they didn't sell.  So is it my fault the team is so bad that even heavily discounted ticket go unused?

Fans want to give face value during 2015 and $5 during 2021

[X-Clown]

42 minutes ago, Star Platinum said:

I really don’t understand this weird obsession nfl fans always seem to have, especially this board lately with,“we have to have our own rookie or I’ll pout” I personally believe reclamation projects can work as well as a draft pick given the right guy, look at tannehill, or Palmer, or even jimmy G taking the niners to the big game, thing is there’s much more to a team than that ,and while I guess a rookie can be exciting, if you get this desperate you get josh Rosen or Justin fields. 

Oh gosh drafting Rosen hurt the cardinals so bad for years, how did they recover??

I would argue that desperation is what caused us to give up multiple picks and pick up a 15 million option on Darnold, and giving Teddy an above average market deal only to dump him for next to nothing a year later.

 

Edited November 8, 2021 by X-Clown

[rippadonn]

Nobody wants to pay for a deliberate sht show.

We knew they were headed down the wrong path, yet nobody in the building could see this all coming!?

I find it hard to believe. There is a purpose and that is to destroy the franchise, it's history, fanbase. You can't be a professional and make so many obvious and stupid mistakes.

[Basbear]

I disagree with the notion that Tepper does not care, cause hes still getting money/return/______ . Im not not the biggest Tepper nut-hugger either. Im 99.98846% sure he is pissed about home game turn-outs. Many have already hit on the reason;melting pot central, poor product, etc. 

@Seltzer I nearly made this thread after the eagles game. A old friend/acquaintance that touches base with me during the season or if big news hits. Anyway he called me the next day(rare), told me the same stuff you layed out. I said "thats the way it always is, front running fans and thats the main fan %". "NOPE THIS FELT DIFFERENT", was his reply...........Hes been going to games for 20 years too, during the bad times and end of the year, hes there. Just the panthers fans aborted halftime(like normal...) and it felt like he was at philly home game form the mid-3rd til the end....I never heard him use the word "embarrassed", he thats what felt like. He said philly controled the stadium and was doing their home game chants, that has happened before(blowboys, steelers etc). Again he said this time it was waaay different feel, never before, even during the worst times.......I hope tepper does do something for you PSL owners, I think he must after the season. Hate to say wait, but thats the game til off-season... 

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Im not not the biggest Tepper nut-hugger either. Im 99.98846% sure he is pissed about home game turn-outs. Many have already hit on the reason;melting pot central, poor product, etc. 

Some of it might be self-inflicted.

Tepper/Panthers took some socio-political stances that were in direct conflict with the beliefs of a wide swath of the Panthers bible-belt rooted fan base...

(and I'm NOT referencing any specific political candidate one way or another...but rather certain "social movement" type issues)

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Again he said this time it was waaay different feel, never before, even during the worst times.....

Did he have any thoughts/ideas on why this was taking place?

Why things are purportedly so different from before?

Edited November 9, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Some of it might be self-inflicted.

Tepper/Panthers took some socio-political stances that were in direct conflict with the beliefs of a wide swath of the Panthers bible-belt rooted fan base...

(and I'm NOT referencing any specific political candidate one way or another...but rather certain "social movement" type issues)

On point as normal, the bible-belt is soooo weak compared to what it once was. What a fall they have taken, I dont even think they in top 3 anymore. 

[Star Platinum]

2 hours ago, X-Clown said:

Oh gosh drafting Rosen hurt the cardinals so bad for years, how did they recover??

I would argue that desperation is what caused us to give up multiple picks and pick up a 15 million option on Darnold, and giving Teddy an above average market deal only to dump him for next to nothing a year later.

 

Oh I agree, but again as to my original point there are more ways than one to get your team where it needs to be, all I said was this tunnel visioned obsession has been done to death,and it’s in every single thread, I am beginning to think that even if we won 10 games this year and signed a vet (like Matt Ryan or something) people would still be upset because we didn’t draft them, you see ? It isn’t so much that I believe in Darnold or Teddy it’s the repetition of the same point ad nauseam. I would love to see some new ideas and talking points as to how to better the team than the old “fire everyone draft qb lt right now right now or I’ll cry” mentality 

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Did he have any thoughts/ideas on why this was taking place?

Why things are purportedly so different from before?

Not that I remember, we were in the middle of our normal back and forth....but he shot that down and hit me with the "it felt different this time". I know many panthers fans exit and dont come back in after half-time(weird but thats normal).  He also said his section was close to 80% eagles fans after the half. Atmosphere was off, WAY OFF. Again he said "I never felt like this in vault before" and hes a hardcore about going to games. Been to 100s of them- doesnt care about weather, losing, traffic, his running mate doesnt want to go, etc he is going come hell or high water.