Charlotte city counsel rezones pipe and foundry site.

[fjblair]

It's ridiculous really. A new stadium? Why? To keep up with Jurry?

Lambeau Field was built in 1957.

It's all about priorities.

[SizzleBuzz]

43 minutes ago, gofightwin said:

Is there enough room? Jeez do you even see the picture? That is about twice the size of the parcel the stadium sits on now.

Absolutely not -- in fact the current stadium parcel is listed as 33-acres and the larger tract of CP&F land is about 40-acres.  (FYI, there's a couple parcels in there CP&F does not own)

 

43 minutes ago, gofightwin said:

Inglewood CA is NOT a city downtown if you aren't familiar with LA.  We don't need dedicated parking for 50,000 cars.

Nor is Glendale, AZ (223 acres) which was held out as a model to copy.  Neither site has parking for "50,000 cars"...not even half that.

Tepper's the richest NFL owner and he's not gonna settle for anything but the best and that ain't a stadium the same size as the current one crammed into a parcel the same size as the current one ...

 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[Tbe]

1 hour ago, Scott12345 said:

stadium will end up in SC

SC loves corporate handouts.

[gofightwin]

33 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Absolutely not -- in fact the current stadium parcel is listed as 33-acres and the larger tract of CP&F land is about 40-acres.  (FYI, there's a couple parcels in there CP&F does not own)

 

Nor is Glendale, AZ (223 acres) which was held out as a model to copy.  Neither site has parking for "50,000 cars"...not even half that.

Tepper's the richest NFL owner and he's not gonna settle for anything but the best and that ain't a stadium the same size as the current one crammed into a parcel the same size as the current one ...

 

 

 

33 acres includes the practice fields. Try again.

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, fjblair said:

It's ridiculous really. A new stadium? Why? To keep up with Jurry?

Lambeau Field was built in 1957.

It's all about priorities.

Solider field is way up there too, weird how its ok at a few places, but others once the stadium hits 10 its "dated and needs replacing"

 

There was a study not long about the true financial impact of a new stadium for the locals. Turns out its was no better than having a local super target. Compete joke.

IF i was king of all, use one stadium for multiple teams including college....even HS. Near the same waste as golf courses....

Edited December 22, 2021 by Basbear

[SizzleBuzz]

38 minutes ago, gofightwin said:

33 acres includes the practice fields. Try again.

So what?

What's the footprint of the "new" stadium vs. old?  

Has to be a massive difference --- shoehorning a massive multi-billion stadium into a cramped 40-acre site is no bueno.  

Edited December 22, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[PanthersATL]

pros and cons. 

I like that the stadium is in uptown, walkable from pretty much the entire hotel district. Like Lambeau or any of the soccer stadiums in London, where it's just part of the neighborhood.

I also like the setup in Houston (for example), where all the stadiums tie together into a single stadium zone with plenty of space to do other things throughout the year, like RodeoHouston (which is fantastic).    except that everyone has to figure out a way to get to the stadium district somehow, whether by car/bus/train, etc. 

 

 

 

[Anybodyhome]

So Charlotte-Mecklenburg County residents, who have not yet finished paying for the latest BOA renovation, are now going to foot the bill for a second stadium, albeit a smaller capacity soccer stadium. The Meck Country residents already have the 3rd highest property taxes in the state and Charlotte is right up there, too.

[SizzleBuzz]

6 hours ago, Scott12345 said:

8 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

If the politicians stand firm (like NC Gov. McCrory did with Jerry Richardson while CLT City Council simultaneously caved) and Just Say No...

...Tepper will have no choice. 

More and more municipalities are manning up and embracing Just Say No:

> SoFi Stadium ($5B), fully funded by Rams ownership.

> Jets-Giants Stadium ($1.6B), built by the owners with no public money (there were revenue sharing concessions, etc).

> NY Islanders ($1.1), new Nassau Coliseum fully built with private funds (NYS does own the land it sits on).  

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stadium will end up in SC

 

Carowinds is 406 acres and sits on the NC/SC border (2 States--1 Team)...

...could build a massive stadium -- mixed use project and have plenty of parking to boot!  (100+ acres bigger than the SoFi Stadium site)

Edited December 23, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[SizzleBuzz]

5 hours ago, Basbear said:

There was a study not long about the true financial impact of a new stadium for the locals. Turns out its was no better than having a local super target. Compete joke.

This sums it up COMPLETELY ...

...and there's more than one "study" as such

 

[SizzleBuzz]

6 hours ago, Tbe said:

7 hours ago, Scott12345 said:

stadium will end up in SC

SC loves corporate handouts.

Certainly a possibility...

...but the only scenario in which Tepper takes this path is Rhule & Co are on a massive winning streak

[Wes21]

On 12/20/2021 at 7:54 PM, mc52beast said:

Tepper may want to wait and see if his team improves any before worrying about a stadium. As it is now he would only need enough seats for him and his friends.

The city of St. Louis told the Rams "start winning and we will build a new stadium."

 

[BurnNChinn]

If Tepper wants to keep running the team in the ground I wouldn’t care if he moved them. Save me time to go pull for a real team instead of this crap.

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, Wes21 said:

The city of St. Louis told the Rams "start winning and we will build a new stadium."

 

Relevance?   (notwithstanding accuracy is entirely questionable )