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"Throw out all the rules"


Mr. Scot
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At the end of the day, football and evaluation should be simple but is convoluted by "forward" thinkers trying to find an edge.  Keep it simple. 

1. Can they play?

2. Are they smart/good teammate/etc.? 

3.  Oh yeah, can they play? 

When you start solely nixing players because of certain athletic or body measures, and not what's on their tape, you're going to fug up. 

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Not to be an apologist for Rhule but BC had 32 teams pass on him for multiple rounds.  Why is that?

He probably had the best college tape of any of the OT prospects.  Why did 32 teams pass on him multiple times?

It's because of arm length.  So in fact, these scouts didn't "throw out the rules" or he would have been drafted before he was.

Rhule would be better served by not always being so open with his thoughts.  He would have been better served not saying anything or saying maybe they think BC's skillset is better served at guard, which would have came across as much more logical than just blaming arm length.

With that being said, I would definitely give BC a chance there to see what he can do, but to act like Rhule is the only person in the league who factors in measurables to decide where to play a player is ignorant.

 

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3 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Not to be an apologist for Rhule but BC had 32 teams pass on him for multiple rounds.  Why is that?

He probably had the best college tape of any of the OT prospects.  Why did 32 teams pass on him multiple times?

It's because of arm length.  So in fact, these scouts didn't "throw out the rules" or he would have been drafted before he was.

Rhule would be better served by not always being so open with his thoughts.  He would have been better served not saying anything or saying maybe they think BC's skillset is better served at guard, which would have came across as much more logical than just blaming arm length.

With that being said, I would definitely give BC a chance there to see what he can do, but to act like Rhule is the only person in the league who factors in measurables to decide where to play a player is ignorant.

Stratton's point isn't that the majority of teams and scouts throw out the rules, but that they should.

As to why teams passed on  Christensen though, I doubt it's as simple as one thing.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Stratton's point isn't that the majority of teams and scouts throw out the rules, but that they should.

As to why teams passed on  Christensen though, I doubt it's as simple as one thing.

If he had some of the best tape in all of college football at the LT positions what else could it be?

Also his athletic testing numbers were elite.

The only thing left were his measurables.

Players get drafted on production, testing, and measurables.  He was elite at 2 of those, but he made it to the 3rd round.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

If he had some of the best tape in all of college football at the LT positions what else could it be?

Also his athletic testing numbers were elite.

The only thing left were his measurables.

Players get drafted on production, testing, and measurables.  He was elite at 2 of those, but he made it to the 3rd round.

School and level of competition, among other things...

The draft profiles of Christensen that I've read had him projected as a backup at the NFL level. Third round is pretty reasonable for that. 

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

School and level of competition, among other things...

The draft profiles of Christensen that I've read had him projected as a backup at the NFL level. Third round is pretty reasonable for that. 

Yeah, he also got beaten like a snare drum by some guys that will never be NFL level players. That stood out.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

School and level of competition, among other things...

The draft profiles of Christensen that I've read had him projected as a backup at the NFL level. Third round is pretty reasonable for that. 

exactly.  He was projected by scouts as a backup even though he had elite athletic testing and elite production.  What does that tell you?  Use some logic, the entire league had doubts about his measurables.

Yes, scouts do factor in level of competition when looking at the production aspect of the evaluation puzzle, but that alone didn't drop him that much.

Here again, I think it's stupid we aren't playing him at LT, lets see what he can do, what do we have to lose at this point but i think all of this "arm length talk" has kind of took a life of its own.  I've got bigger issues with Rhule than that comment.

If he would have said his physical traits are better suited for guard then I don't think people would have been so upset or it would have been as big of a deal.  Honestly most of the league agrees with that.

Personally, I thought he was a really good prospect at LG, with some of his quickness.  I know if he can be an average LT that would be an upgrade for us but personally, I thought his best chance of being elite was at LG.  I think the fan base would have been ok with that if we would have just committed to something.

 

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