No more Watson threads. Use this one or one of the other 20 existing ones.

[Shocker]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

Panthers are officially 35 million over the cap with the recent moves. If Darnold is included in the deal and we collect on the 6.1 bonuses from Fox. We will be just under 60 million under the cap. That does not include Watson's cost. 

Atm D4 would cost 35 million and leave us 25million. However, if he is restructured at time of trade.... get your popcorn...

I would guess we could fit Tunsil in as well right?

[MHS831]

7 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

I dont believe I've shown any emotions. This has been the most discussion worthy that has occurred in months here. Dont hate that I want in the fun of conversing potential outcomes, ha. I get joy in this poo.

Ill be the first to jump into a backup plan thread too if we lose out.

Yeah, If I am honest, I would like Watson but understand that there are benefits if we do not get him--like players and picks.  Imagine, long term, that we lose in 2022.  Fire Rhule, draft a stud QB, and still have cap room for the core.   Is that worse than signing a guy who might miss 1/3 of the regular season games on suspension?  Either way, 2022 is toast.

[jb2288]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

that would be a good backup plan for us. Baker can most likely be had for a conditional 3rd because of the browns vocality around trading him. They reduced his value.

Exactly. I'm still team LT this draft, but if we're deadset on a rookie QB, go get Baker for less value and let him get rocked this year while we fix our OL over the next 18 months and let the rookie develop. 

[Smittymoose]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

Panthers are officially 35 million over the cap with the recent moves. If Darnold is included in the deal and we collect on the 6.1 bonuses from Fox. We will be just under 60 million under the cap. That does not include Watson's cost. 

Atm D4 would cost 35 million and leave us 25million. However, if he is restructured at time of trade.... get your popcorn...

I don't know that Watson will sign an instant extension, but he almost surely restructures wherever he ends up. It only benefits him and the team. I'd expect to see about $25M converted to a bonus where he goes, spreading it across the remaining four years at around $6-7M per year. Would open up about $15-18M.

[Panthercougar68]

9 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Ill be the first to jump into a backup plan thread too if we lose out.

Like using the cap space creates to sign Armstead to block of Malik Willis 

[SgtJoo]

Might explain why Fitt and Rhule aren't in Charlotte? 

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, Shocker said:

I would guess we could fit Tunsil in as well right?

I mean, yes. However, I'd think Tepper would advise Scott to go after Teron Armstead to absolutely fug the Saints for going in on Watson. If Armstead signs elsewhere than the saints have to eat 3 years of void years for armstead... that would cost them 20million total in cap. We would be cash strapping them for years to come.

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, SgtJoo said:

Might explain why Fitt and Rhule aren't in Charlotte? 

I do wonder if Tepper is helping with Watson's legal case at all. Like paying for resources...

[therealmjl]

1 minute ago, SgtJoo said:

Might explain why Fitt and Rhule aren't in Charlotte? 

It's been reported that Rhule is standing outside Brady's gated entrance with a sign that says "TB12 4ever!!!!1111!!!111"

[Shocker]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

I mean, yes. However, I'd think Tepper would advise Scott to go after Teron Armstead to absolutely fug the Saints for going in on Watson. If Armstead signs elsewhere than the saints have to eat 3 years of void years for armstead... that would cost them 20million total in cap. We would be cash strapping them for years to come.

[TheCasillas]

Just now, therealmjl said:

It's been reported that Rhule is standing outside Brady's gated entrance with a sign that says "TB12 4ever!!!!1111!!!111"

that was a look alike... 

[Panthercougar68]

Just now, therealmjl said:

It's been reported that Rhule is standing outside Brady's gated entrance with a sign that says "TB12 4ever!!!!1111!!!111"

Means less Panthers decisions he’s making.

[jb2288]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

I do wonder if Tepper is helping with Watson's legal case at all. Like paying for resources...

Gotta imagine something like that is happening behind the scenes. I don't think anyone here can disagree... Tepper wants to win and I believe he will empty his personal pockets to do so. 

[Smittymoose]

3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

I mean, yes. However, I'd think Tepper would advise Scott to go after Teron Armstead to absolutely fug the Saints for going in on Watson. If Armstead signs elsewhere than the saints have to eat 3 years of void years for armstead... that would cost them 20million total in cap. We would be cash strapping them for years to come.

This is why the Saints are in deep trouble if this does not resolve by Wednesday. Armstead is likely to have several massive offers and will not sit on them for long.