Rhule will have no excuse

[DaveThePanther2008]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If this all saved his ass, we are probably looking at being a bad franchise for a very long time.

How many coaches have survived because they had good staff or a great QB.  It can go both ways you can survive because you stay out of the way and let your coaches coach or you have that franchise QB that makes you look better than what you are.

 

[Snake]

He's had no excuse for two years. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

4 minutes ago, ColumbusCounty said:

Although I'd prefer next years talent pool over this one. 

The only problem you have with that philosophy is that you might not be in a position to get that pick unless you trade away multiple 1st round picks. 

[Smithers]

13 minutes ago, Khaki Lackey said:

I agree, but if everything looks good, but we can’t get wins because of bad QB play, he’ll probably get another “prove it” year with a newly drafted QB.
     The Darnold decision would have looked like an ok gamble if it weren’t for the 5th year option signing (which could have been Fitty’s call.) and the fact that we had already gambled on Teddy (which very well may been at Brady and Hurney’s urging. 
     Not making excuses for the guy, but last year’s draft, when he was supposedly in total control, looks pretty good. (Especially if Fields ends up looking mediocre or worse)

It’s very possible that none of the moves have been unilateral. We’ll never know.

 

Agree

[unicar15]

1 hour ago, onmyown said:

you’re mostly right…but Rhule chose his QB, it’s not a decision he hasn’t made, don’t let him blow more cap on a FA

unless you let him sign a 5th year, gut a draft and fug a franchise for shits and giggles

with that, he made the statement he could win with Darnold. let’s fuging see it

 

Yep. To me the decision should lie with Fitterer and if I’m Fitt I’m building for the future. If we end up getting Armstead then maybe that is acquiring a QB in the draft with a trade down and acquire more picks. If we whiff on TA then imo you take an OT at #6. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

How many coaches have survived because they had good staff or a great QB.  It can go both ways you can survive because you stay out of the way and let your coaches coach or you have that franchise QB that makes you look better than what you are.

 

Matt Rhule is a historically bad coach. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, ColumbusCounty said:

Side note: He might wanna take McAdoo's advice on QB considering his track record at draft time. If that's the case, I have zero problems taking a QB. Although I'd prefer next years talent pool over this one. 

If the pick is strictly Rhule's perspective @ qb then I'd worry. 

Well the last time he took another coaches opinion we ended up with Sam Darnold, so....

[DaveThePanther2008]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Matt Rhule is a historically bad coach. 

Kind of a short history don'tcha think?

I'm not defending him but we're stuck with him and hopefully he's on the right track.  

I, personally, cannot hope we suck just to see him go.  Firing him and bring in another coach may or may not be the answer.  We've seen teams go through coach after coach and limited success.

My hope is he's learned from his past mistakes and improves as a coach.   

Many on here just want him gone regardless of how 2022 goes. 

[Carl Spackler]

3 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Rhule IMO will have no excuses this year.

Bullshit. The moment Johnny Hekker gets a hangnail, he’s going on IR. IR is Rhule’s best friend. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

Just now, Carl Spackler said:

Bullshit. The moment Johnny Hekker gets a hangnail, he’s going on IR. IR is Rhule’s best friend. 

Hahahaha you're probably right. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

If this all saved his ass, we are probably looking at being a bad franchise for a very long time.

Yeah, I'm still missing any justification for keeping Rhule around as HC.  He doesn't seem to be particularly good at anything football related.  

Eliminate Rhule from the equation and this team does as good or better on Sundays this fall.

[DaveThePanther2008]

2 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Yeah, I'm still missing any justification for keeping Rhule around as HC.  He doesn't seem to be particularly good at anything football related.  

Eliminate Rhule from the equation and this team does as good or better on Sundays this fall.

Well that isn't going to happen and apparently Tepper thinks that with a better staff Rhule will do better.  So at the end of 2022 someone is going to be able I told you so.

Well see if it is "Rhule Haters" or Tepper

[top dawg]

Darnold has already been a major error, and he absolutely is an excuse. At the same time, if we willingly trot Darnold out as starter again, Rhule is done! 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Well that isn't going to happen and apparently Tepper thinks that with a better staff Rhule will do better.  So at the end of 2022 someone is going to be able I told you so.

Well see if it is "Rhule Haters" or Tepper

Of course, there is little to no indication that Tepper intends to fire Rhule in the near future.

However, if this team does better in 2022, WITHOUT much of the coaching staff Rhule hand picked two years ago, it will say something about Rhule's initial judgement.  None of it good.

Can Rhule learn and grow as a HC?  Of course!  He appears to be getting his chance to do so.  

But just know, it's going to be a hard sell to convince most fans that any improvement in Rhule's third season is due to his efforts.  Why?  Because this recent whirlwind of changes feels somewhat forced for a Head Coach who just a few months ago claimed:  "The plan is working 1000 percent, you just can't see it!"

If his claims were true, why make such sweeping changes?

1000 percent indeed.