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The Panthers have first round grades on 3 QBs.


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Just now, ImaginaryKev said:

This ain't true at all, people are actually looking at talent level and productivity in college and aren't impressed by the QBs this year. 

And the consensus on those next year quarterbacks will change with the wind just like it did with this years class. No one can predict how they will perform and how that will affect their draft stock there is plenty of time left for things to change positively or negatively. Rest assured if we do not draft one this year these same takes will be prevalent before next years draft too.

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10 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

This ain't true at all, people are actually looking at talent level and productivity in college and aren't impressed by the QBs this year. 

Like they weren't impressed with Tom Brady?  Joe Montana?  Russell Wilson?  like that?  Or like they were impressed with Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russell?  Which is it?

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8 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Settling for less is what got us Sam Darnold, please get a grip and understand the Panthers are a long term rebuild

Uh no. What got us Sam Darnold was the front office was scared to draft their own QB and instead negotiated against themselves and traded for another teams already chewed up and spit out failure without even watching his gametape. If you don't want one in this draft that's fine but using Sam Darnold to justify it is going over a ledge to make a point.

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36 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I love Walker--and I see it.  If he goes #1, then Hutchinson at #2...Neal could fall to us---but I am guessing the Jets would take him at #4 and spend the rest of the draft on defense.

Jets still have that mountain Becton, but Ive seen where they are shopping him around..... Either could draft Ekwonu and play him at LG....but a top 4 pick used on a OG is not smart football....even for the jets/jags. Jets could be done with Becton, hell Id love a shot at that mountain and sign his dad while we are at it...

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4 hours ago, Basbear said:

Jets still have that mountain Becton, but Ive seen where they are shopping him around..... Either could draft Ekwonu and play him at LG....but a top 4 pick used on a OG is not smart football....even for the jets/jags. Jets could be done with Becton, hell Id love a shot at that mountain and sign his dad while we are at it...

Jet fans have the least amount of patience of any fan base in the NFL.  They want to get rid of Wilson and he just got there

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