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Giants could have severely altered our draft trajectory

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1 hour ago, countryboi said:

This doesn’t make sense because I don’t believe for a second we would have walked away from a chance to draft Icky

They may not have, unless they got a really ridiculous offer.

At the very least, the temptation would have been there.

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19 minutes ago, poundaway said:

Fit said they called others trying to find a trade down partner, but the way the board fell, no one wanted to.  Giants succeeded in doing exactly what they wanted to.

Bullshet he never said that.  He said once the tackles were there they weren’t moving down.  Stop making shet up

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7 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Bullshet he never said that.  He said once the tackles were there they weren’t moving down.  Stop making shet up

Q were there some calls there at the end and were anything that was any tipping  at all
A nothing um serious you know.   We asked a couple teams if they wanted to flip with us because we thought we can go back one or two and maybe pick up something but I think other you know other people are looking the same board that we are.
 

 

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I was thinking of the other way round

Say we did find a trade partner, moved down a few (missing out on icky but perhaps picking up cross) and landed a 2nd

Its like our second rounder would still have been Corral or I guess Willis/Ridder.

So, I think, not moving down gave us the best of both - the best tackle and one of the best QBs.

This was rather than the “best” QB / #3 OT and the same QB

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2 hours ago, stirs said:

Actually, having 2 CB's go early tipped the board.  Giants had a no brainer in front of them

But they didn't know that. And realistically, it would have been rational to think somebody might have traded up for Thibodeaux.

We might not have been inclined to take any of those offers, but again the Giants had no way of knowing that.

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16 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

So this is another bit from Rapoport, this one regarding the Giants picks at five and seven...

Per Rap Sheet, New York knew they wanted Evan Neal and Kayvon Thibodeaux, but they took them in the order they did for a specific reason.

The Giants believed that if they took Neal first, teams would run to the Panthers with trade offers to move up and get Thibodeaux. Evan Neal wasn't expected to generate the same response, so had they taken him first, the Panthers might have gotten a load of good trade down offers.

Would they have taken any of them? With a highly coveted guy like Ekwonu on the board, I'm not so sure. Personally, I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out.

But it makes you wonder what might have happened.

Is there an even better scenario you could imagine?

NY could have taken Ekwonu.  I saw a few mocks that had NY taking Ekwonu  at 5.  Would Carolina taken Neal. It wouldn't have been a loss if they had. If Carolina had taken Neal they still could have gotten Thibodeaux. Just think all 3 of the leading Tackles were still on the board.  

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12 hours ago, poundaway said:

Fit said they called others trying to find a trade down partner, but the way the board fell, no one wanted to.  Giants succeeded in doing exactly what they wanted to.

On one of the recap draft shows they theorized that if the Giants went tackle at 5 someone would have moved up to 6 for KT.

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17 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

So this is another bit from Rapoport, this one regarding the Giants picks at five and seven...

Per Rap Sheet, New York knew they wanted Evan Neal and Kayvon Thibodeaux, but they took them in the order they did for a specific reason.

The Giants believed that if they took Neal first, teams would run to the Panthers with trade offers to move up and get Thibodeaux. Evan Neal wasn't expected to generate the same response, so had they taken him first, the Panthers might have gotten a load of good trade down offers.

Would they have taken any of them? With a highly coveted guy like Ekwonu on the board, I'm not so sure. Personally, I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out.

But it makes you wonder what might have happened.

Is there an even better scenario you could imagine?

Yep. The Jets were a key player here, too. 
 

 

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