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Panthers Tuesday practice thread


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8 minutes ago, Steelo Senpai said:

I still think it’s a facade. They know who’s starting week 1. Want to keep them pushing each other. But it seems like Darnold is starting to fall behind on the field and mentally (not playbook-wise, but looking lax and checked out) 

100% he knows, I think it’s funny that Rhule thinks he’s fooling anyone. Like at this point you could even say something like “players are starting to separate themselves” and just leave it at that.

I’ve never in my life seen coach speak so by the book.

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5 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

100% he knows, I think it’s funny that Rhule thinks he’s fooling anyone. Like at this point you could even say something like “players are starting to separate themselves” and just leave it at that.

I’ve never in my life seen coach speak so by the book.

I’m trying to understand what’s wrong with someone following text book coach speak?

 

as a fan, I get it. We want info and certainty, but in a competitive league… how is being transparent and sharing insights into the team and the decisions helpful?

 

look at BB, he didn’t let a damn person know who his OC was. We didn’t find out it was Patricia until someone spotted him at practice making calls….

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1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

I’m trying to understand what’s wrong with someone following text book coach speak?

 

as a fan, I get it. We want info and certainty, but in a competitive league… how is being transparent and sharing insights into the team and the decisions helpful?

 

look at BB, he didn’t let a damn person know who his OC was. We didn’t find out it was Patricia until someone spotted him at practice making calls….

Because everyone knows your full of poo, I’m fine with a coach giving the bare minimum but have a little integrity about it.

Like I said, it’s just as easy to say that as a whole players all over the field are starting to separate themselves and we’ll be reevaluating more in the coming weeks.

But to flat out say no one has an edge is just fuging stupid.

No opposing team is going to get any more from what I just said than what Rhule said but at least what I said had some truth and substance to it. 

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4 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Or, they could be trying to prop up Darnold's value so they don't have to pay him so much this year or get a pick out of him. Some of you are so triggered by the smallest things.

Prop up his value when all 31 other teams have the same access to the social media accounts that we do… if a Twitter account stated that Darnold threw three picks in practice but Rhule said Darnold still looks good… who are you going to believe. Out of all the excuses I’ve heard for being by the book… this one is the most asinine. 

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24 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

100% he knows, I think it’s funny that Rhule thinks he’s fooling anyone. Like at this point you could even say something like “players are starting to separate themselves” and just leave it at that.

I’ve never in my life seen coach speak so by the book.

You've never seen a Belichick press conference then. Though, I'd say they are the exact opposite. Belichick basically says nothing. His answers are short, to the point, and rarely addresses the actual question. Rhule talks and talks without saying anything of substance.

Same result, different styles. The answer from either coach is just as worthless.

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1 minute ago, Luciu5 said:

You've never seen a Belichick press conference then. Though, I'd say they are the exact opposite. Belichick basically says nothing. His answers are short, to the point, and rarely addresses the actual question. Rhule talks and talks without saying anything of substance.

Same result, different styles. The answer from either coach is just as worthless.

I don't think Rhule does it on purpose though like Belichick does, at least not all the time.

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4 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

You've never seen a Belichick press conference then. Though, I'd say they are the exact opposite. Belichick basically says nothing. His answers are short, to the point, and rarely addresses the actual question. Rhule talks and talks without saying anything of substance.

Same result, different styles. The answer from either coach is just as worthless.

I’m actually fine with a Belichick press conference, it’s direct, to the point, and if he doesn’t want to answer the question he doesn’t.

Just feel like it’s a waste of time to just flat out lie in your press conference when there’s been over 100 members of the media at your practices the past few days.

He could get away with that poo at Baylor because college football practices aren’t covered to the extent that NFL training camps are. However, when you have reports coming out from different members of the media reporting how Baker looks like he’s separating from Sam and then Rhule comes back and says that no one’s separating then it either makes him look A) Dumb or B) Like a liar.

I just don’t think he understands how to handle NFL media, it’s quite a bit more out there than college.

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1 minute ago, MillionDollarCam said:

I’m actually fine with a Belichick press conference, it’s direct, to the point, and if he doesn’t want to answer the question he doesn’t.

Just feel like it’s a waste of time to just flat out lie in your press conference when there’s been over 100 members of the media at your practices the past few days.

He could get away with that poo at Baylor because college football practices aren’t covered to the extent that NFL training camps are. However, when you have reports coming out from different members of the media reporting how Baker looks like he’s separating from Sam and then Rhule comes back and says that no one’s separating then it either makes him look A) Dumb or B) Like a liar.

I just don’t think he understands how to handle NFL media, it’s quite a bit more out there than college.

Show me one report where Baker is "seperating" from Sam. Ive heard the opposite via "Twitter"

Dont let your confirmation bias fool you 

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Just now, KSpan said:

I don't think Rhule does it on purpose though like Belichick does, at least not all the time.

Why?

Surely you've heard of the Rhule kiss of death. How many times does he praise a player and they get cut two days later? It's because when asked, Rhule purposely says nice things about them, but purposely doesn't mention the fact they are about to get cut if we don't find a trade partner.

Rhule's a talker. And apparently a pretty good one since most folks on here believe everything he says then clutches pearls when he does the exact opposite. You think he's accidentally being less than truthful?

I don't know how much of this QB competition is a farce, but the statement isn't a blatant lie, though I doubt it's entirely honest either. I don't think that was an accident.

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Just now, SammyFranchise said:

Show me one report where Baker is "seperating" from Sam. Ive heard the opposite via "Twitter"

Dont let your confirmation bias fool you 

You fugging kidding.. lol. I’m not going to do your HW for you bud, if you can’t find the reports then you aren’t looking in the right places.

Read yesterdays practice thread for starters.

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27 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Prop up his value when all 31 other teams have the same access to the social media accounts that we do… if a Twitter account stated that Darnold threw three picks in practice but Rhule said Darnold still looks good… who are you going to believe. Out of all the excuses I’ve heard for being by the book… this one is the most asinine. 

...yea...I think the word is out

May be an image of 27 people and text that says 'Best The Best Elite … TiERMAKER Superstars Dak Derek Carr Above Average Neutral High Ceiling, Low Floor Too Early To Tell Game Managers Below Average Starters Sam Damold'

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6 minutes ago, Pimpdaddy said:

...yea...I think the word is out

May be an image of 27 people and text that says 'Best The Best Elite … TiERMAKER Superstars Dak Derek Carr Above Average Neutral High Ceiling, Low Floor Too Early To Tell Game Managers Below Average Starters Sam Damold'

It’s okay though… Darnold only has around five or so turnovers through training camp but Rhule said no one has set the edge… Darnold for a first round pick incoming.

If someone wants to argue that’s why there’s technically a “competition” for QB1 then fine (so Darnold can try to build some value). But to say that Rhule’s PC’s have any influence whatsoever on some sort of compensation for Darnold when everyone in the entire world who has access to a cellular device can quickly type his name into Twitter and see how he is performing is just astoundingly dumb.

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