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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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2 hours ago, poundaway said:

PJ was better for most outings than Grier. 

No he wasn't.

As for Walker, he could be on our practice squad for five years and nobody would give him a look.

The only coach who thinks he's an NFL player is Matt Rhule.

(who coincidentally isn't an NFL coach)

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

No he wasn't.

As for Walker, he could be on our practice squad for five years and nobody would give him a look.

The only coach who thinks he's an NFL player is Matt Rhule.

(who coincidentally isn't an NFL coach)

We may find out.   We're not keeping 4.  We'll see if Darnold or PJ finds a home.  You seem pretty confident neither will.

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Just now, poundaway said:

We may find out.   We're not keeping 4.  We'll see if Darnold or PJ finds a home.  You seem pretty confident neither will.

Didn't say anything about Darnold.

I actually think he could find a home as a backup somewhere if someone we're paying a lot less for him than we are.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

The majority of people on here last preseason thought Grier outperformed Walker, even among Grier critics.

We all pretty much also knew who Rhule was keeping no matter how they performed.

Walker completed like 37% of his passes. If you switched his stats with Grier's, they'd say Walker did better. Irrational hate is irrational hate.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

The majority of people on here last preseason thought Grier outperformed Walker, even among Grier critics.

We all pretty much also knew who Rhule was keeping no matter how they performed.

He wasn't.  He had one 24 yard run TD that made him look better than he was.  His one start, before Rhule, was atrocious. 

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6 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

P.J. Walker is flat-out not an NFL-tier quarterback. Cool that he got a win against a team that scored 0 points on Matt Rhule, but it's the fact. Grier's a QB3, maybe a QB2 if he improves some more. Haven't heard much but what I saw was that he's done well in Dallas' camp.

I saw that report out of the Dallas camp on Grier, too.

Grier stunk here, but in fairness to him, he was drafted because he had potential to develop behind Cam.  Bad timing, as the guy who wanted him was gone after his first year, because of the way that year went there was next to zero development (seats were too hot), and the staff that came in behind him had no interest.  Who knows, maybe he becomes a solid #2 over time.  But it wasn't going to happen here once Turner left.

The possibility that he could develop into a serviceable backup places him ahead of Walker.  Walker's only chance is to latch onto a team willing to run the wishbone.

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7 minutes ago, poundaway said:

He wasn't.  He had one 24 yard run TD that made him look better than he was.  His one start, before Rhule, was atrocious. 

Lemme guess: You're gonna cite the game against the Cowboys where he had two touchdowns (one running and one passing) and Grier barely played as part of your argument. Correct? 😐

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I think how bad PJ Walker is, is overstated around here.  He isn’t a NFL backup.  That’s just Rhule being Rhule.   Let’s establish that. But he is still better than a lot of QBs we actually drafted.  He can’t avoid the dumb play….but a lot of guys we drafted couldn’t do what PJ has done on a NFL field (like the AZ game).  He has some level of sporadic ability. So he isn’t the worst we have put on the roster in reality.  

Pike,  LeFors, Touchdown Jesus.  Hell, PJ probably is better than Clausen.  

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23 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

P.J. Walker is flat-out not an NFL-tier quarterback. Cool that he got a win against a team that scored 0 points on Matt Rhule, but it's the fact. Grier's a QB3, maybe a QB2 if he improves some more. Haven't heard much but what I saw was that he's done well in Dallas' camp.

When people talk about Matt Rhule keeping players that don't belong on an NFL roster, PJ Walker tends to be one of the first names that comes up.

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