Best/worst PFF grades from Week 3

[Gerry Green]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Just post on your main dude I already have an idea of who you are you think you're clever but you're giving yourself away. It's truly pitiful to have to hide on another account on an anonymous board lol.

 

Deny and deflect.

[WOW!!]

7 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

I trust my eyes more than I do PFF.

agreed…

[MillionDollarCam]

14 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Yes!! That’s my opinion.. I think Campen was brought here to take responsibilities off of Rhule because it was clear he couldn’t handle it… Or evaluate Olinemen in general.. That’s my opinion..

you see any more fences or non valid arguments??

Did you formulate your opinion on some sort of facts?

It would be unheard of for a positional coach to have full control over who starts in his position group.

In August, Matt Rhule did a press conference where he outlined the starters, do you think he was just regurgitating what Campen told him?

The more likely scenario is that Campen has input but the ultimate decision is up to Rhule and Rhule has decided to go with Elflein. Meanwhile, Bozeman, who graded out as one of the top 15 centers in the league last year, is sitting on the bench.

So by your argument, the argument that stated that Christensen and Corbett make Elflein look better than he actually is… Bozeman would also look better playing beside Christensen and Corbett… one again, using your argument… the Panthers could potentially have a top 10 center sitting on the bench… and I’ll tell you right now… it’s isn’t because of Campen.

Edited September 26, 2022 by MillionDollarCam

[frankw]

17 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Just so we are on the same page, do you think Campen sets the starting OL? Or Rhule?

It's one thing to disagree but you have to really be out there to believe a head coach with full control and a 63 million dollar contract isn't setting his own starting OL lineup.

[Shocker]

Looking at this as a growing opportunity…we have a ton of playmakers on offense.  Need to put it all together and gain some confidence and we will be tough to handle

What we have not gotten is everyone’s best game…on either side.  Need to beat Zona and gain big mo.

Edited September 26, 2022 by Shocker

[WOW!!]

Just now, MillionDollarCam said:

Did you formulate your opinion on some sort of facts?

It would be unheard of for a positional coach to have full control over who starts in his position group.

In August, Matt Rhule did a press conference where he outlined the starters, do you think he was just regurgitating what Campen told him?

The more likely scenario is that Campen has input but the ultimate decision is up to Rhule and Rhule has decided to go with Elflein. Meanwhile, Bozeman, who graded out as one of the top 15 centers in the league last year, is sitting on the bench.

So by your argument, the argument that stated that Christensen and Corbett make Elflein look better than he actually is… Bozeman would also look better playing beside Christensen and Corbett… so just based of your arguments… the Panthers could potentially have a top 10 center sitting on the bench… and I’ll tell you right now… it’s isn’t because of Campen.

Again your Opinion which just like mine isn’t backed with any facts.. Unless your in their building how do you know what the dynamics in the room is?? Where are your facts that Rhule isn’t listening and implementing based on Campen and Macadoo’s advice ?? They were brought here based on there experience and resume to do the jobs they are doing now.. There isn’t a clear connection with Campen in Rhule’s history.. So at this point we can both make up narratives based on nothing but opinion.. All I know I’ve seen different methods implemented in this offseason that I didn’t see in Rhule’s 1st 2..  So all I can do is give credit to the new addition and not that Rhule has learn something.. You believe what you want and I can do the same.. Plain and simple..

[WOW!!]

@MillionDollarCam Again While I think Bozeman could be better I’ll trust in the judgement of the coach that was hired to decided that.. 20+ years of experience has to mean more then GM’ing from a couch..

[Jackie Lee]

8 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Looking at this as a growing opportunity…we have a ton of playmakers on offense.  Need to put it all together and gain some confidence and we will be tough to handle

What we have not gotten is everyone’s best game…on either side.  Need to beat Zona and gain big mo.

Yeah the offense having zero points until the 4th quarter is a major issue. Plenty of opportunities. This zone poo is going to keep any offense in the games no matter how well everything else is going. It did seem like the coaches took some baby steps this week, more blitzes, more under center QB work which opens some things up. It's really the zone on D and the long routes on O that are just stubborn BS they need to mix up occasionally

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

@MillionDollarCam Again While I think Bozeman could be better I’ll trust in the judgement of the coach that was hired to decided that.. 20+ years of experience has to mean more then GM’ing from a couch..

Even if he was better at this point Elflein hasn't played himself out of the job, and offensive line continuity is very very important.

[frankw]

1 minute ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

offensive line continuity is very very important.

Yeah that's why we were playing musical chairs with the oline all through camp and preseason. Hahahahaha you are a riot.

[MillionDollarCam]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

@MillionDollarCam Again While I think Bozeman could be better I’ll trust in the judgement of the coach that was hired to decided that.. 20+ years of experience has to mean more then GM’ing from a couch..

That’s assume that Campen is making the decisions… when in reality… history tells us that position coaches don’t set the starting lineup.

You’re opinion isn’t based on anything at all as where mine is coming from 1) the head coach giving an interview a month ago and telling us what the starting lineup would be while also praising Cam Erving (maybe go look that interview up) and 2) the widely accepted fact that head coaches set their lineups.

Campen isn’t even the associate head coach like he was in Cleveland, just the OL coach.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Yeah that's why we were playing musical chairs with the oline all through camp and preseason. Hahahahaha you are a riot.

Either you really are that stupid or you fail to realize I thought it was moronic then too.

[Shocker]

3 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Yeah the offense having zero points until the 4th quarter is a major issue. Plenty of opportunities. This zone poo is going to keep any offense in the games no matter how well everything else is going. It did seem like the coaches took some baby steps this week, more blitzes, more under center QB work which opens some things up. It's really the zone on D and the long routes on O that are just stubborn BS they need to mix up occasionally

Man I hear you.  I see a very conservative coaching staff that has plenty of talent to work with here.  This team is too passive with the talent we have

[Shocker]

3 minutes ago, frankw said:

Yeah that's why we were playing musical chairs with the oline all through camp and preseason. Hahahahaha you are a riot.

Do you have any suggestions on how we might change this?  Pointing fingers and complaining is childish