Before it becomes a topic of conversation this off-season

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

There were a lot of teams with concerns about Fields.  I never fully understood all of them.  But even so, him dropping below Lance makes my head hurt, too.  I had my own concerns about Wilson, but the consensus was otherwise among the people paid to make that call so I just figured that was my own stupidity. 

Had the 49ers not gone all in on Lance, who knows where he would have been drafted?  He could have fallen down the board below Fields.  It only takes one team to elevate a guy's draft position. 

Had to be the interview process. It's vital in the evaluation process and is something fans have minimal visibility into and anything that comes out is likely to be misinformation.

[Snake]

Where the Panthers went wrong is not getting Matt Stafford. That was totally on Rhule and one of the reasons he was fired. 99% of QBs teams were willing to move on from are just not good. 

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Snake said:

Where the Panthers went wrong is not getting Matt Stafford. That was totally on Rhule and one of the reasons he was fired. 99% of QBs teams were willing to move on from are just not good. 

It was Rhule. We would've likely still sucked with Stafford. Worst case scenario we would've been just good enough to keep Rhule around.

[TheCasillas]

49 minutes ago, hepcat said:

If Shanahan doesn’t want him, I don’t want him. 

 

20 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Exactly. If a great offensive coach can't make him work that's a wrap.

Is Trey Lance that bad? I believe we have only seen him play 4 games? He got injured in his second start this year. 

 

Not saying the kid is good... but i dont think we have enough footage to say he is bad.... Let's not forget that Shanny wanted to dump Jimmy G... and then was left with no choice.....

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It was Rhule. We would've likely still sucked with Stafford. Worst case scenario we would've been just good enough to keep Rhule around.

I dont think there is enough data to support this assumption. Sam Darnold started out hot in our offense and competed until he went his rut. Stafford wouldnt have fell into that rut.

[Sgt Schultz]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

It was Rhule. We would've likely still sucked with Stafford. Worst case scenario we would've been just good enough to keep Rhule around.

Problem is we would have gotten Stafford killed behind our OL last year.  The second-worst scenario (definitely behind being good enough to keep Rhule around) was making a big trade for him and then having him on IR and hobbling around when he came back this year.

 

[saX man]

There's just no way we trade again.  It's a rookie, Corral, & a Cooper Rush/Minshew type guy, with the rookie likely starting.  

Keep the eyes ahead.  

[Kentucky Panther]

Only QB that might be available at a decent price that I want is Derek Carr. Other than that, let’s draft a QB and see if he hits 

[TheCasillas]

3 minutes ago, saX man said:

There's just no way we trade again.  It's a rookie, Corral, & a Cooper Rush/Minshew type guy, with the rookie likely starting.  

Keep the eyes ahead.  

If Steichen is the hire, we go Minshew and stack picks. I could see someone like Steichen letting Corral and Minshew compete his first year, and ask the FO to stack picks for next year's draft. I believe the hype for this QB class is seriously losing momentum. 

Edited November 22, 2022 by TheCasillas

[Jaxel]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Let me just say that if Jimmy G continues to play well and the Niners extend him and shop Trey Lance... no. Just no. Hell fuging no.

THANK YOU, get that over with in hurry.

[Jaxel]

5 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

If Steichen is the hire, we go Minshew and stack picks. I could see someone like Steichen letting Corral and Minshew compete his first year, and ask the FO to stack picks for next year's draft. I believe the hype for this QB class is seriously losing momentum. 

Steichen and Lamar Jackson (if this is even plausible), who says no?

[TheCasillas]

Just now, Jaxel said:

Steichen and Lamar Jackson (if this is even plausible), who says no?

Probably the Ravens

[Jaxel]

5 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Probably the Ravens

Thus the plausibility clause.

Edited November 22, 2022 by Jaxel

[LinvilleGorge]

26 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

 

Is Trey Lance that bad? I believe we have only seen him play 4 games? He got injured in his second start this year. 

 

Not saying the kid is good... but i dont think we have enough footage to say he is bad.... Let's not forget that Shanny wanted to dump Jimmy G... and then was left with no choice.....

When he's played he's looked awful. I'm not sure they can afford to let Jimmy G go and rely on him. But I'm also not sure they're ready to swallow the bitter pill that they traded a fortune to draft a bust. Really think they'll try to extend Jimmy G a year or two to hedge their bets.