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All the fans that want to tank, you guys are all in on Stroud?


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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

Ohio State has been a great program under 4 different coaches over the past 20 years or so.

Name their best NFL QB ever.

 

I'll wait over here.

Someone brought up only 4 have been taken in the first and 2 of the 4 were from like the 1940s. It just leaves Haskins (mental issues) and Fields (looks promising, but too early to tell).

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57 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

 

Who was the best nfl qb that played for Texas tech before mahomes? What about Wyoming before Josh allen? LSU before Joe Burrow? Oregon before Justin Herbert? Cal before Aaron Rodgers? Michigan before Brady?

 


 

 

 

The difference is none of those schools QBs get a lot of attention. 

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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Ohio State has been a great program under 4 different coaches over the past 20 years or so.

Name their best NFL QB ever.

 

I'll wait over here.

Joe Burrow was there for three seasons. Justin Fields last 5 games has his team averaging 30 points a game ( and they just did 10 points without him ). Don’t scout the school. Scout the player. 

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5 hours ago, Varking said:

Maybe somebody will Fields him and a false story about how he’s a last in, first out kid who doesn’t work hard? Or that OSU QBs don’t work in the NFL? ( ignoring his recent stretch where they were the top scoring team in the NFL for five weeks and then dropped to 10 points this week without him )

Like how Corral fell because he’s an alcoholic who beats up kids?

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3 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Right now, we are 6th in the draft order.

Three teams ahead of us, (Chicago, Denver, and Pittsburgh) won't be taking a quarterback.

The Texans probably will.   Detroit is up in the air.  They currently have one of the top passing offenses in the league, so they may decide that they are good enough.  

Also, even if we fall further back in the draft, three of the teams behind us are unlikely to take a qb.  Of course, some team (Falcons, Colts) could trade up I suppose.

Seattle has Denver’s pick

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