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Derek Carr done in Las Vegas


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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

In terms of roster moves? Yeah. 

I mean, he looked absolutely awful. You really can't count on him for anything in terms of making decisions on roster moves at the QB position. If he surprises and develops into something, awesome. If he doesn't, oh well but you've already planned for that.

Im a corral fan and agree with this. 

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10 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Wait a minute, wasn't Carr the whole reason Adams came to Las Vegas in the first place? And Carr might not even be on the team next year. Yikes.

yep i thought that as welll, feels like one year in NFL is like 10 everywhere else. sooooo much changes.

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I found the following stats quite interesting. The raiders defense has typically ranked at the bottom end of the league. The best defense he played with was the 20th ranked unit of 16 and 17. A lot of better quarterbacks would struggle to overcome such an inconsistent and sometimes ineffective unit.

2022: 27th, 2021: 26th, 2020: 30th, 2019: 24th, 2018: 32nd, 2017: 20th, 2016: 20th, 2015: 22nd, 2014: 32nd

By no means am I saying we should go for Carr, but if he’s placed on a team with a better defense and decent supporting cast and coaching staff, then there’s no reason why he couldn’t be a good quarterback for a team. As let’s face it, the Raiders have been dysfunctional at times over Carr’s time and that’s surely not helped. 

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2 hours ago, Castavar said:

Wait a minute, wasn't Carr the whole reason Adams came to Las Vegas in the first place? And Carr might not even be on the team next year. Yikes.

Yeah, I suspect there's a lot of unhappy people in LA right now. Carr isn't playing particularly well but it is hard to point to him as "the problem" in LV.

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I actually think that Las Vegas is a likely destination for Brady. This doesnt mean that they dont take a quarterback. But I think that Tampa and Las Vegas are teams that could be looking to draft a QB in the first round this year. If we make the playoffs, there's are a few scenarios where non of the top 4 guys are there. So prepare to take a defensive player or a tight end.

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22 hours ago, Kentucky Panther said:

He used to be someone I would have been satisfied with picking up for next season instead of drafting QB. However, he has really stunk it up this season, with elite talent on offense. 

lol...if we wanted to over spend he would be a great fit here.

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