Sam Darnold’s Market Value per Spotrac

[Jon Snow]

6 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Not to mention he did, indeed, make a difference on the team this year. Now would he ever lead us deep into the playoffs? - not unless we surrounded him with 49ers-level weaponry.

It's possible.  Who knows? Anything is possible.  But his name doesn't trigger me so I can be objective. 

[glenwo2]

5 hours ago, frankw said:

And if this bum is the best we can hope for in a backup just make a run at Andy Dalton or see if Minshew is available.

Don't know about Dalton (he didn't exactly light it up himself the last game) but man...this Minshew affinity is just as bad as Darnold's.  lol

 

[glenwo2]

5 hours ago, frankw said:

We know his floor we know his ceiling no point in tying up 10 million bucks in that. The Jets already learned the lesson people like yourself just want to keep repeating over and over and over and over.

The Jets also drafted Zach Wilson.

They've got a lot of lessons to learn still. 

[glenwo2]

4 hours ago, frankw said:

All you want me to say is we just need a game manager but there are other options for that. Who here wouldn't like to draft a Brock Purdy in a late round and have him out there throwing darts. But how likely is that? For years people have been talking about Sam's arm talent but the end our season we lost to Tom Brady who is old enough to be a grandpa and we barely squeaked by Dalton and a Saints team who clearly couldn't be bothered to give a fug about winning.

Get real.

We lost to Tom Brady because Wilks failed to have anyone out over the top to guard Evans who burned them TWICE for a TD. 

Edited January 10, 2023 by glenwo2

[glenwo2]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

That's why I want to see him stay. I'm ready for the meltdown. It will be glorious. 

[CRA]

11 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Get real.

We lost to Tom Brady because Wilks failed to have anyone out over the top to guard Evans who burned them TWICE for a TD. 

THRICE

[glenwo2]

Just now, CRA said:

THRICE

Even worse. 

 

WOOF.

[Aussie Tank]

If we’re gonna draft a rookie early giving them the keys I’d rather have an experienced career backup with a history of being good for the starters a Case Keenum 

[ericr0319]

if we can get him at that price its a no-brainer, regardless if we draft a QB or not. that price for a back up NFL QB that can win you games is huge. 

[frankw]

42 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Get real.

We lost to Tom Brady because Wilks failed to have anyone out over the top to guard Evans who burned them TWICE for a TD. 

Yeah no poo we know our secondary was awful those games are going to happen. That's why it's important to have a quarterback who can muster more than one passing touchdown when the playoffs are on the line.

[glenwo2]

55 minutes ago, frankw said:

Yeah no poo we know our secondary was awful those games are going to happen. That's why it's important to have a quarterback who can muster more than one passing touchdown when the playoffs are on the line.

Um..He had 3 passing touchdowns in that game.

Had our D stopped even ONE of Evans scores, we would've won.

 

Not sure what stats you're looking at.

Edited January 10, 2023 by glenwo2

[frankw]

33 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Um..He had 3 passing touchdowns in that game.

Had our D stopped even ONE of Evans scores, we would've won.

 

Not sure what stats you're looking at.

I was referring to both the Pittsburgh game and the Detroit game. Playoffs were on the line the last 4 weeks. We got lucky against the Lions thanks to historic efforts from our run game (that do not happen often) and we needed that win at home against the Steelers. Two passing touchdowns between those two games over 8 quarters of football. Yeah it was nice Sam finally put up some touchdowns against the Bucs but it was too little too late to that point. And any one of us that's watched Tom play no matter how much we dislike him knew we were going to need probably 30 points to punch our ticket. We can be mad about the defense justifiably so all we want but it's an offensive league these teams have talented players too. The horrendous performance from our passing offense against New Orleans is only confirmation of our need to start over with that side of the ball.

[glenwo2]

13 minutes ago, frankw said:

. Yeah it was nice Sam finally put up some touchdowns against the Bucs but it was too little too late to that point.

No.

No it really wasn't "too little, too late".

You're making it seem like we were playing from behind and Sam's TDs were just window-dressing when in fact, we had leads of 14-10 and 23-10.  

That loss was as much a failure on Wilk's part as it was on our banged up Secondary.

If not moreso.

That was the moment (combined with Wilk's conservative call to not go for it on 4th and a foot) that ultimately lost us the game. 

Sam did his part.  

The Defense didn't and neither did Wilks.

 

If Sam is to be blamed for anything, it would be on the INT he threw and for not falling on a fumble (that Bozeman caused). 

 

Bringing up the Steelers loss means nothing because it didn't cost the Panthers ultimately as they got the much-needed win against Detroit.   

And bringing up this past Debacle against the Saints means nothing because...well....it was a game that meant nothing except to just simply end another pathetic season on somewhat of a positive.  

Edited January 11, 2023 by glenwo2

[frankw]

9 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

No.

No it really wasn't "too little, too late".

You're making it seem like we were playing from behind and Sam's TDs were just window-dressing when in fact, we had leads of 14-10 and 23-10.  

That loss was as much a failure on Wilk's part as it was on our banged up Secondary.

If not moreso.

That was the moment (combined with Wilk's conservative call to not go for it on 4th and a foot) that ultimately lost us the game. 

Sam did his part.  

The Defense didn't and neither did Wilks.

 

If Sam is to be blamed for anything, it would be on the INT he threw and for not falling on a fumble (that Bozeman caused). 

 

Bringing up the Steelers loss means nothing because it didn't cost the Panthers ultimately as they got the much-needed win against Detroit.   

And bringing up this past Debacle against the Saints means nothing because...well....it was a game that meant nothing except to just simply end another pathetic season on somewhat of a positive.  

All those games mattered man it's all we had been talking about through December. Again. 24 points isn't going to cut it against a playoff bound team more often than not. The defensive breakdowns were just salt in the wound. Meaningless or not that's an embarrassing way to end the season. And no I do not think Wilks should be the head coach I haven't given him a pass. Though as I've said I do give him credit for looking significantly better than Rhule at times. But the lows (Cincinnati and New Orleans in particular) are glaring. This franchise needs more than Ron Rivera 2.0. We should switch gears and hire an offensive minded head coach.