Why we won't get the #1 pick

[DaveThePanther2008]

I was watching a mock draft on you tube. NFL Stock Exchange Post Senior Bowl mock draft.

They made a great point that the Bears covet Anderson or Carter.  If they trade down to #9 surely one of the teams ahead of them would take both of these players.  So, with Houston and Indy after a QB the Bears will most likely trade down to 2 or 4 and that's it.

They make great points for each pick.  They have Houston trading up to #1 and get Young to ensure they get the QB they want.  Levis will go to Indy and Stroud falls to the Raiders leaving us with Richardson.

I didn't totally agree with the mock but they give good reasons why they chose the players that they did.  I would also be happy to not lose any draft capital and still get Richardson.   

Do you think differently? Does Chicago trade down to #9 and get a king's ransom from us? 

Trading with Arizona for 3 might be an option but #1 is out of reach for us.  However, they would have the chance to get Anderson or Carter depending on Chicago's pick. 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Thats why the Panthers need to a 3 way trade with Arizona and the Bears. Cards get 9, Bears get 3, Panthers get future HOFer CJ Stroud

[Aussie Tank]

I see us going up to 5 for Stroud 

[DaveThePanther2008]

Just now, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Thats why the Panthers need to a 3 way trade with Arizona and the Bears. Cards get 9, Bears get 3, Panthers get future HOFer CJ Stroud

Interesting but Arizona would lose out on Carter or Anderson.  So, this wouldn't work. 

[UNCrules2187]

This is why I think Arizona is a much better potential trade partner than Chicago. Chicago likely trades down with either Houston or Indy (division rivals so can see Houston trading up to #1 to ensure they get the guy they want). Chicago settles in at 2 or 4. Panthers can see who goes top 2 and if the guy they really want (I feel like that's Stroud) is there at 3, then they make their move. 

Teams typically get ~200 points above value when trading down, so #9, #93 and the 24 1st (slotting it as a mid-first round pick) would be a fair deal IMO. Maybe throw in a pick swap as well (i.e. Panthers 2024 2nd for Cardinals 2024 3rd).

[Shocker]

4 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I see us going up to 5 for Stroud 

He will be long gone by 5 barring a miracle

[DaveThePanther2008]

2 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I see us going up to 5 for Stroud 

Possible but from what I have heard several times is that Carroll was very upset about his defense and coming down to 9 misses out on Elite defenders. 

[The Huddler]

6 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I see us going up to 5 for Stroud 

or Richardson

[UNCrules2187]

Just now, Shocker said:

He will be long gone by 5 barring a miracle

Matt Miller's latest ESPN mock posted today has him falling to Carolina at 9 

One can only hope...

[DaveThePanther2008]

3 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

This is why I think Arizona is a much better potential trade partner than Chicago. Chicago likely trades down with either Houston or Indy (division rivals so can see Houston trading up to #1 to ensure they get the guy they want). Chicago settles in at 2 or 4. Panthers can see who goes top 2 and if the guy they really want (I feel like that's Stroud) is there at 3, then they make their move. 

Teams typically get ~200 points above value when trading down, so #9, #93 and the 24 1st (slotting it as a mid-first round pick) would be a fair deal IMO. Maybe throw in a pick swap as well (i.e. Panthers 2024 2nd for Cardinals 2024 3rd).

While I agree Arizona is probably a better target and Watts on his decline, Arizona would miss out on one of the elite defensive playrs available. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

2 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

or Richardson

The mock draft I watched that inspired my post had Richardson going to us at #9.  If things were to fall this way than IMO it is the most ideal way the draft could unfold.  We would get a talented QB that needs grooming and a QB whisperer head coach.  And we would not have to give up any picks to get him. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

My biggest fear is we get to Atlanta and they screw us by trading down and someone grabs Richardson at 8. 

[Cdparr7]

I said this the other day. There are plenty of suitors with higher picks for them to trade down with. 
 

There are also more asses with hot seats in other teams than there are here. They will be willing to give up more than us. 
 

People need to go ahead and pre-order their Carr jerseys

[CPcavedweller]

We can't trade for the Number 1 pick now because we need draft picks for defense. Our list of holes on that side of the ball just got bigger. Now you probably should take BPA to build out the core of the team as best you can, or trade down if you're sure you can get who you want, and develop those guys while probably not being great. I just, I don't understand the scheme transition while you're looking for a new QB and only have five draft picks.