DARNOLD

[CRA]

21 minutes ago, stratocatter said:

Yeah I guess I was triggered. By the hate.
The irrational judgement that works like: our coaching staff is So Great. They can coach up any QB … as long as it is one we trade all our picks for. Only those quarterbacks though 

Talk about another and the coaching means poo. We have posters making up that Darnold doesn’t care about getting better because….. he didn’t change his routine? It is ridiculous. Just, anything to demean the guy and anyone that says they see something in him right along with him. 

And Gase, Peyton Manning? Whoever threw it up that Gase was good because….. well who do you really think ran that show? Go ahead, say Peyton Manning at that point was successful because of Gase.  It will make you feel better. 
 

I mentioned Gase/Manning.  Had nothing to do with Gase being good or not.  That's missing the point. 

The point I was making, NFL coaching is largely a push.  It's a talent at key positions league.  Pending a certain level of competency is meet. There are outliers on both ends obviously.   But a super talented QB is simply going to be that.   Gase wouldn't of prevented Mahomes from being Mahomes.   Just like he could stop Peyton form having the best season in a hall of fame career.  Now can the coach be the difference between a Super Bowl? Sure.  Consistency year after year? Sure.  But standard NFL coaching....isn't going to stop talent from showing. 

Sam Darnold just isn't good at this level.   It's not a coaching issue holding him back.  Sam's issues have always been in his DNA as a QB.   You can trace them all back to college. 

 

[DavidEng]

On 3/1/2023 at 9:27 AM, BrianS said:

No more Sam.  He's a good dude, but not an NFL QB.  Hopefully the staff we have now can see that clearly.

Might want to read this.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/05/panthers-passing-offense-dvoa-sam-darnold/

[bythenbrs]

On 3/10/2023 at 1:48 PM, Sgt Schultz said:

The problem with Darnold is he looked better in a scheme designed to minimize the damage the QB could do.  That is not all on him, the QB room when Wilks took over and we started running the ball was Darnold, Walker, and Mayfield.  Who could blame them for emphasizing the run first, second, and third?

Pickles might have looked good in that offensive scheme........Well, maybe not, but you get the idea.

Let's face it: Darnold is just the latest in a line of a rather dismal QB history.  Remove Cam and Jake and the last 20 years are not exactly a who's who.  Is he the worst?  No, Pickle's 3:9 TD to interception ratio is pretty hard to beat by mere mortals.

I’ll make a not quite full throated endorsement of Beurlein.  He was decent.  YMMV

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, bythenbrs said:

I’ll make a not quite full throated endorsement of Beurlein.  He was decent.  YMMV

Better than Jeff Lewis 

[jasonluckydog]

Sam Darnold will be our starting qb next season. The dude is a winner. 

[Sgt Schultz]

8 minutes ago, jasonluckydog said:

Sam Darnold will be our starting qb next season. The dude is a winner. 

You forget, The Process is in Nebraska. 

[bythenbrs]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Better than Jeff Lewis 

Well, that’s damning with faint praise.  Seifert should have kept Beurlein.  Instead, it became the first (?) Panthers QB reclamation project, costing us a third and fourth round picks.