REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB

[Brooklyn 3.0]

[Eric4280]

25 minutes ago, frankw said:

You're a Sam Darnold believer. Please take several seats and let Fitterer do his thing.

If we sit put at 9 and take Levis, hold that same energy.

[Montsta]

4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Speculation my dude.  Which #1 overall picks as a QB has multiple Championships?  I can think of 4 off the top of my head in the past 40 years.  Actually 3* because even though Eli went #1 overall he actually got traded to a different team.

Yeah and the goat was picked like 200 something so we can’t use confirmation bias to make our judgements too early IMO. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

6 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Speculation my dude.  Which #1 overall picks as a QB has multiple Championships?  I can think of 4 off the top of my head in the past 40 years.  Actually 3* because even though Eli went #1 overall he actually got traded to a different team.

To be fair, one of those QBs got a championship as a retirement gift from the NFL. 

[45catfan]

Just now, Montsta said:

Yeah and the goat was picked like 200 something so we can’t use confirmation bias to make our judgements too early IMO. 

Sorry, I don't see an Elway, Aikman or Peyton Manning in this year's draft and those were the three.  Peyton didn't even win his second ring with his draft team.  Now we are down to Elway and Aikman.  Elway didn't get his until seasons 15 and 16, which happened to be his last two.  That kind of longevity with a single team is unheard of nowadays.  That leaves Aikman as the only one to win multiple Championships early on with his draft team.

Looks statistically sound choice to blow up our next three drafts to move up, right?  Statistics could care less about a fans base's misery index.

[Sub Zero]

15 minutes ago, Eric4280 said:

If we sit put at 9 and take Levis, hold that same energy.

Ppl need to stop dreaming.. None of these QB’s are dropping to 9.. The top 4 will be gone before pick 7..

You want a QB you have to go get them this year..

Edited March 5, 2023 by Sub Zero

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Agreed. But it's not for Joe Burrow. It's for a complete NFL unknown you're hoping like hell you're right about. I'm not opposed to it. I just acknowledge what a massive risk and roll of the dice it would be.

Fitt is on his last life, Reich is 61 - collectively they both probably dont give 2 fugs about the future if this doesnt work out

[mrcompletely11]

42 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

In other words, If we move to #1 and the dude flops, we are hamstrung until 2026.  Wonderful!  I get the other end of the argument too, but the downside is much worse than the upside is great.

If guys like daniel jones and sam darnold get 4 and 5 years to show their talent then I am perfectly on board with giving someone like Stroud 3 years to get his poo together.  3 firsts doesnt cripple you like you think

[mrcompletely11]

33 minutes ago, Eric4280 said:

Exactly this. Media hype is blowing this out of proportion. The fact that none of them are really separating themselves all that much (all have great reports in their own rights) helps us in terms of being able to be patient.

If you believe this report Stroud clearly separated himself as the alpha yesterday

[Eric4280]

12 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

Ppl need to stop dreaming.. None of these QB’s are dropping to 9.. The top 4 will be gone before pick 7..

You want a QB you have to go get them this year..

Once again; Fields dropped to where he did and the entire class last year dropped further than any media led us onto believe. Obviously this class is different but it’s been proven that media vs front offices do share different perspectives. What good does it do for Reich and Fitt to come out say we really trade everything for Stroud or anyone?

[Eric4280]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

If you believe this report Stroud clearly separated himself as the alpha yesterday

I don’t believe this report. There’s been reports on damn near everyone.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Eric4280 said:

I don’t believe this report. There’s been reports on damn near everyone.

cool, we will see in short order, I believe after the past 3 years and then yesterday Tepper is in fug it mode and do what ever it takes to get stroud here

[TLGPanthersFan]

It is gonna hurt initially but in the long run I think it will work out. 

[jtm]

The debate comes down to what is better: Big contract and grab a sure thing with Rodgers or Carr or give up draft picks and grab a young stud QB that will be on a smaller contract for years. 
 

I have no idea what is a better option