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REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB


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2 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

So you dont know what picking means?

It's a real world concept.

 

 

I know we’ve been “picking” the wrong path for 4 years now…

Im also starting to see you truly don’t have a plan other then waiting on the perfect situation to happen and being meh until then..

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There just isn't a QB in this year's draft that is worth what it will take to move up into the Top 3 to take them.

I realize with a new staff and two 2nd round picks, people want to move up to get that franchise QB, but this year's class is just filled with guys with major question marks that the cost is too high.

Stay put, maybe one of the top 4 QB's falls to us at 9, if not, keep our picks to fill out our holes and then trade as many future 1st's as needed next year to move up in a much better QB class.

If we trade 9, our seconds this year, and future firsts for any QB in this class, it will be beyond stupid.  Sure one of them could work out, but that cost is WAY to high given the concerns over the QB's in this class.

At most, maybe I'd be okay with moving up to 5 or 6 if it costs say 9th pick, 49ers 2nd and maybe a future 2nd or 3rd.  But I'm not okay with giving up any future firsts for this year's class, and really against giving up both of our 2nd's this year as well, too many holes that can be filled with those picks.

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2 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

I know we’ve been “picking” the wrong path for 4 years now…

Im also starting to see you truly don’t have a plan other then waiting on the perfect situation to happen and being meh until then..

Yes we have...hence 

Picking right.

I led you there just drink.

The perfect situation is your made up fantasy to argue with yourself.

 

 

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51 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

one of these is not like the rest

I do root for Young though. I love his game outside of his size, and I hope he has a career where we can look back and laugh at how bad he looks at the combine, a la Brady’s skinny ass in boxer shorts lol. 

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1 minute ago, heel31ok said:

Yes we have...hence 

Picking right.

I led you there just drink.

The perfect situation is your made up fantasy to argue with yourself.

 

 

So what is your plan?? 
You keep saying some hold general statement 

“pick” right 

with no substance..

Atleast I’ve kept my opinion Focus and precise…

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

^ bro verge is a joke and was all in on the mac jones and malik willis trains 

 

she has been exposed as a fraud and its the reason she doesnt show up any more.  I cannot remember the name of the poster that totally exposed her here but its in the history somewhere. 

Let me know when you find out who it was!

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56 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

she just posted a mock where we were drafting a corner at 9.  Yeah man she is dialed into the panther organization

A mock with zero trades that I was asked to make interesting. I feel like Carolina will be moving up for a quarterback in this draft, just like everyone else does. 

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4 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

There just isn't a QB in this year's draft that is worth what it will take to move up into the Top 3 to take them.

I realize with a new staff and two 2nd round picks, people want to move up to get that franchise QB, but this year's class is just filled with guys with major question marks that the cost is too high.

Stay put, maybe one of the top 4 QB's falls to us at 9, if not, keep our picks to fill out our holes and then trade as many future 1st's as needed next year to move up in a much better QB class.

If we trade 9, our seconds this year, and future firsts for any QB in this class, it will be beyond stupid.  Sure one of them could work out, but that cost is WAY to high given the concerns over the QB's in this class.

Okay I understand this plan on boundaries..

But it doesn’t live in reality..

1. Who knows if next year QB class will be that good.. Both Williams and Maye have another year of eligibility.. With NIL they can easily go back to school and get paid..

2. There has only been 3 recognized perfect QB prospects Lawrence, Luck, and Elway in the history of the nfl draft.. everybody else had ? Marks.. So this draft is no different from the Burrows, Mahomes, or Allen drafts.. Add in the fact that if there are “better prospects “ in next years draft.. It’s almost a certainty that the teams with those picks aren’t trading away their chance at getting those guys..

3. If you have any faith in this new staff.. You also must know that this team will be better and won’t be in position next year to get a QB.. If you believe we made good decisions in the coaching then you must believe this team will be to good to get a QB next year.. So reality is it will cost more to go get 1 next year.. right??

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Just now, Sub Zero said:

Okay I understand this plan on boundaries..

But it doesn’t live in reality..

1. Who knows if next year QB class will be that good.. Both Williams and Maye have another year of eligibility.. With NIL they can easily go back to school and get paid..

2. There has only been 3 recognized perfect QB prospects Lawrence, Luck, and Elway in the history of the nfl draft.. everybody else had ? Marks.. So this draft is no different from the Burrows, Mahomes, or Allen drafts.. Add in the fact that if there are “better prospects “ in next years draft.. It’s almost a certainty that the teams with those picks aren’t trading away their chance at getting those guys..

3. If you have any faith in this new staff.. You also must know that this team will be better and won’t be in position next year to get a QB.. If you believe we made good decisions in the coaching then you must believe this team will be to good to get a QB next year.. So reality is it will cost more to go get 1 next year.. right??

The opinions on next years QBs are a lot more varied than this year honestly. Like yes, Williams is a consensus top guy, but outside of that there is a variation of grades on everyone else. You are on the mark with point one. 

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3 minutes ago, Verge said:

The opinions on next years QBs are a lot more varied than this year honestly. Like yes, Williams is a consensus top guy, but outside of that there is a variation of grades on everyone else. You are on the mark with point one. 

Just my opinion..

The waiting on next year plan is a failed proposition.. Because nobody can predict next year prospects anymore.. NiL, Injuries and just having a bad season has changed that..

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