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So then, we’ve got a WR corps to build. What do y’all got?

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In the draft, Tillman, AT Perry look like good outside WRs. Downs would be a solid get too.

In FA, we've been linked to Hardman and Campbell. Chark is out there, as well as Jourdan Rodrique mentioning Van Jefferson as a potential trade target. Van has ties to both Brown and WR coach Jefferson. 

I'd also bring in a TE like Moreau and draft the BPA TE at 39.

I'm not freaking out this year because I think the plan is clear now to let '23 be the "reset" year. New coaches, rookie QB and dead cap to fall off. Clean up the mistakes in '23 and walk into '24 with a clean sheet. 

No need plunking down cash on older vets like Nuke and OBJ at their respective ages. 

Hardman is 24 years old.....Campbell is 25.....Jefferson is 26. 

Focus on 2024. We will have a boatload of cash available to be key players in FA. Draft smart this year and don't weigh ourselves down.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah I just know he was battling injuries all season.

My ideal scenario would be a slight trade down R2 to like 42-50.  

Gives us the capital to land a Hyatt/Downs + LaPorta/Kraft combo.  Think something along those lines would be awesome for a young gun. 

Wouldn't take the idea of an EDGE in R2 out of the question with Felix and the Northwestern kid, but, man, could be good stuff.

Love Tyler Scott and Rashee Rice as well. 

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Just now, Bear Hands said:

My ideal scenario would be a slight trade down R2 to like 42-50.  

Gives us the capital to land a Hyatt/Downs + LaPorta/Kraft combo.  Think something along those lines would be awesome for a young gun. 

Wouldn't take the idea of an EDGE in R2 out of the question with Felix and the Northwestern kid, but, man, could be good stuff.

Love Tyler Scott and Rashee Rice as well. 

Hyatt is a good deep threat, but the funny thing is Tillman was WR1 for UT before the season started. He got injured and Hyatt was a welcomed surprise. I wonder where Tillman is projected…

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Just now, ForJimmy said:

Hyatt is a good deep threat, but the funny thing is Tillman was WR1 for UT before the season started. He got injured and Hyatt was a welcomed surprise. I wonder where Tillman is projected…

Yeah Tillman is being kind of slept on.  Great size, physical, sneaky fast, hands catcher/ball fighter.  

I like the Michael Pittman comp that NFL.com has.  Was heavily hyped going into the season.  Could be a great pick in R4.  

 

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Odell, d hop nor any other older vet are going to want to come here to play with a rookie qb.

 unless they’re in fear of being out the league there’s not a vet I can see wanting to play here, maybe we can grab cooks from the Texans? But I’m not sure if they’re quarrel was because of playing time or that they sucked, maybe both.

young fa WRs the staff think they can develop and trust this scouting staff can nail a wr pick, i like a choice of slayton, mecole or meyers if it’s not too pricey 

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4 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

It’s a bad FA group, okay draft. More than a few available for trade. 

What are y’all’s idea to build a group for Young/Stroud?

Hyatt, Josh Downs, Rashee Rice, Tyler Scott, Xavier Tillman, Andre Iosivas will some names to know.

Maybe Nuke becomes a target?

Who else could be had?

Ideas plz

 

 

Take the best WR or TE at 39, Chark in FA. Aside from that I'm guessing our trade value for Corral just dropped even more which sucks

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