Video Breaking down how Bryce Young can actually throw to the middle of the field

[Day1PanthersFan]

I am not worried about his ability to see the field , I am worried about him being able to walk after his 10th blindside hit

[Ricky Spanish]

CJ is taller and more solid.

CJ has the better arm.

Both are incredibly accurate.

Young has better pocket presence and awareness.

Young Has better improvisational skills.

Young is much better under pressure.

I think it comes down to do Young's innate abilities to sense and avoid pressure mean he will be able to avoid the big hits we are worried he would take?

Like I've said before, I go back and forth on these two daily. I wish Young were two inches taller, then this wouldn't even be a discussion. That's why I lean towards young in general.

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

CJ is taller and more solid.

CJ has the better arm.

Both are incredibly accurate.

Young has better pocket presence and awareness.

Young Has better improvisational skills.

Young is much better under pressure.

I think it comes down to do Young's innate abilities to sense and avoid pressure mean he will be able to avoid the big hits we are worried he would take?

Like I've said before, I go back and forth on these two daily. I wish Young were two inches taller, then this wouldn't even be a discussion. That's why I lean towards young in general.

CJ is taller and more solid

CJ has better arm

CJ has better mechanics

CJ has pin point accuracy

Both have good pocket awareness

Both are good under pressure 

Young has better improvisational skills

 

 

 

 

 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

If Jalen Hurts can get swole, so can Young. That said, I still prefer Stroud.

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

CJ is taller and more solid.

CJ has the better arm.

Both are incredibly accurate.

Young has better pocket presence and awareness.

Young Has better improvisational skills.

Young is much better under pressure.

I think it comes down to do Young's innate abilities to sense and avoid pressure mean he will be able to avoid the big hits we are worried he would take?

Like I've said before, I go back and forth on these two daily. I wish Young were two inches taller, then this wouldn't even be a discussion. That's why I lean towards young in general.

I think if Young was even 6’ 200 (playing weight) I’d lean towards him and that’s still a smaller QB. Young thrives under pressure, but I think Stroud is better in the pocket. Stroud thrives in rhythm and timing. He gets the ball out quickly which I think might translate better in the NFL. I’m just concerned that Young’s style of play leads to more hits which paired with his shall frame makes him slightly more of a risk IMO.

[Ricky Spanish]

6 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

CJ is taller and more solid

CJ has better arm

CJ has better mechanics

CJ has pin point accuracy

Both have good pocket awareness

Both are good under pressure 

Young has better improvisational skills

 

 

 

 

 

Young has better pocket awareness. He feels pressure much better than Stroud. Because of that, he is Much better under pressure than Stroud, Stroud is not good under pressure:

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What he needs to improve: We just talked about how good Stroud is when kept clean in the pocket (71.7% completion rate, 35 touchdowns, 93.4 PFF grade). Well, he is basically the polar opposite under pressure (41.3% completion rate, six touchdowns, 42.0 PFF grade).

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-profile-c-j-stroud-ohio-state

Stroud had one game where he played well under pressure, and even then he left some meat on the bone against Georgia.

I say this liking Stroud as a prospect because there is a ton to like - the mechanics you mentioned and his pinpoint accuracy are both amazing. He looks effortless throwing the ball. BUT I think Young is the better QB prospect with size taken out of the equation.

[Losovoevosseniorcapspeciai]

15 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Young has better pocket awareness. He feels pressure much better than Stroud. Because of that, he is Much better under pressure than Stroud, Stroud is not good under pressure:

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-profile-c-j-stroud-ohio-state

Stroud had one game where he played well under pressure, and even then he left some meat on the bone against Georgia.

I say this liking Stroud as a prospect because there is a ton to like - the mechanics you mentioned and his pinpoint accuracy are both amazing. He looks effortless throwing the ball. BUT I think Young is the better QB prospect with size taken out of the equation.

So what is it about the size that concerns you?

[The Huddler]

7 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

Tbf that would concuss a lot of qbs in the nfl. Sometimes smaller guys can protect themselves better from impact. I dunno it’s certainly a big risk.

Who do you want us to take?

[Ricky Spanish]

34 minutes ago, Losovoevosseniorcapspeciai said:

So what is it about the size that concerns you?

How Frail is he? Will he bend in half if Myles Garret Sacks him? I don't care about his height at all, it's his thiccness, or the lack-thereof that concerns me and most others. He won't ALWAYS be able to diagnose pressure and sometimes guys get beat. Will he be able to handle taking the big hits he took in college but at the pro level?

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

How Frail is he? Will he bend in half if Myles Garret Sacks him? I don't care about his height at all, it's his thiccness, or the lack-thereof that concerns me and most others. He won't ALWAYS be able to diagnose pressure and sometimes guys get beat. Will he be able to handle taking the big hits he took in college but at the pro level?

Yeah it’s a durability thing. People keep referencing Brees. Young is even a good bit smaller than him. The difference between Rodgers and Brees is the same as Brees and Young (about 2 inches and 15-20 pounds). Brees also got the ball out quick (played more like Stroud honestly) and took very little hits. It’s enough of a concern for me to rate Stroud about Young comfortably. Young is still a great prospect, but so is Stroud with less of a risk.

[Losovoevosseniorcapspeciai]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah it’s a durability thing. People keep referencing Brees. Young is even a good bit smaller than him. The difference between Rodgers and Brees is the same as Brees and Young (about 2 inches and 15-20 pounds). Brees also got the ball out quick (played more like Stroud honestly) and took very little hits. It’s enough of a concern for me to rate Stroud about Young comfortably. Young is still a great prospect, but so is Stroud with less of a risk.

As far as what’s in this man’s soul, the posted video gives some great insight into his personal toughness. 
 

As far as the data..

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/weight-and-injuries
 

…it’s a nonstarter.

 

statistics:  not just for losers anymore! 

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, Losovoevosseniorcapspeciai said:

As far as the data..

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/weight-and-injuries
 

…it’s a nonstarter.

 

statistics:  not just for losers anymore! 

You can post that link a hundred more times it won't make a difference in what will happen if a 300 pound defensive lineman lands on Bryce Young.

Just a heads up. You extreme Young guys are making it so even the regular folks in favor of him are looking at you like you're wacked out of your mind. Take a breather for a bit.

[Wes21]

9 hours ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

Getting a QB that is the mirror image of Brees gives us a plus and that alone could possibly get our first road to the SB win. I know it is a bit far fetched but nonetheless hopefully it does come true for us.

Bryce Young is not Brees.  He is a smaller, more experienced Anthony Richardson.  That is going to go over like a lead balloon, but that is what I am seeing on film.  Its the hot take version, but I hope it makes people take a deeper look into what they think about the kid.

[Losovoevosseniorcapspeciai]

3 minutes ago, frankw said:

You can post that link a hundred more times it won't make a difference in what will happen if a 300 pound defensive lineman lands on Bryce Young.

Just a heads up. You extreme Young guys are making it so even the regular folks in favor of him are looking at you like you're wacked out of your mind. Take a breather for a bit.

That’s specifically what the link is about. Meant to ease that specific concern. It’s just a helpful point for analysis. Perhaps some haven’t seen. No need to be hateful. We’re on the same team here.