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Just for the sake of discussion, is there a correlation between size and injury?

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5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

At the end of the day you're asking an NFL NickelBack to suit up at QB for you 17 times a season and hoping for the best. 

 

I mean, it's true. If you saw Bryce Young walk in and had no clue who he was and he told you he played football at Alabama you're think he's either a slot receiver, nickelback, or he's a kicker/punter. That's pretty much it.

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20 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I’m more than ok with us taking him. He has a great QB mind. He has a chance to be special. I just can’t sit here and say his size isn’t a concern.

Pretty much.

You have to fire everyone in the building, and I mean everyone, if you take Young and he gets hurt. 

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3 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Pretty much.

You have to fire everyone in the building, and I mean everyone, if you take Young and he gets hurt. 

at the end of the day I have to imagine this is the prevailing logic.  Bryce is good and will win games but oh boy if he gets dinged up badly this is going to go south quickly.   

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4 hours ago, XClown1986 said:

It really is going to come down to knowing how to protect oneself when getting hit. Even 6'5 250 pound QBs like Cam had to learn how to slide and know when to run out of bounds or throw the ball away. Not doing so is asking for a shorter, injury plagued career (as we have seen). Some positions can't avoid contact, but QB is a position where it becomes a decision. Some bigger QBs can withstand hits better, but it adds up in the long run. Even now, the Bills are very aware of how much Josh Allen is getting hit and are making a conscious effort to reduce that significantly. 

Two types of QBs scare me in terms of getting hit:

1. QBs that can't feel the pressure approaching or have no awareness of defenders on a blitz and have no time to prepare for the hit, thus taking hits like a crash test dummy.

2. QBs that drop their shoulder on a run or roll out instead of sliding.

Injuries are a part of the game, but it really has to do with decision making and play-style, moreso than size. I remember seeing Jeff Garcia take the full weight of Kris Jenkins and he rolled around on the ground in agony for a minute or so. But he got up, finished, and even won the game (I believe so... It was a while back). Some of the better QBs in the league at staying healthy, did so because they knew presnap where they wanted to put the ball, called the right protections, and got it out quickly.

This is why I'm not worried about Bryce. He's the most pressure aware QB I've seen in a long time, if not ever. A significant portion of his game revolves around avoiding hits. Other guys might be able to take more hits but if they're eating dirt more often than Young would it's a wash.

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Go to the Panthers website pull up their roster and look for all the 5'10 or below players. There are 4. Now if you repeated that process with the other 31 NFL teams what do you think you'd find? The folks who don't see this as an issue are not going to be convinced and those who do aren't either. What it boils down to is either you believe he will be one of 3 outliers in the last 40 years or he won't. If we draft him I hope he balls out but it will remain in the back of my mind.

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20 hours ago, ECHornet said:

How do you know he didn't get on the scale for the Panthers staff?

Well, the 5-10 Young hasn’t gotten any taller. And it’s unclear whether his combine weight (204 pounds) changed since he declined to get measured or step on the scale at last week’s pro day. Scouts aren’t necessarily concerned about batted passes for Young, who can change his arm slot and find throwing windows. But there are durability worries given his slight frame.

https://theathletic.com/4349599/2023/03/27/panthers-big-board-nfl-draft/

 

whatcha hiding Bryce?

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    • frankw
      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By frankw · Posted

      Nobody on the huddle is saying we have an elite group offensively across the board. They aren't great. They're young. If you are expecting someone to agree with your position of blaming everyone around Bryce Young nearly three full seasons into his career you are going to be left holding the bag save for a handful of people who act like they are paid to defend his honor. Bryce Young is not a guy who has had to claw and fight his way into starting jobs in football. He's had the best to work with and been gifted roles since he was a teenager. The Panthers have one of the youngest rosters in the league and with us needing an infusion of young defensive talent in the upcoming draft we're only going to get younger. We need a QB who possesses the ability to elevate those around him. If you can't agree with me on that then there's nothing further to discuss.
    • frankw
      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By frankw · Posted

      All Bryce and the Panthers had to do was split with the Saints and a rookie QB. The bar was so low. They even had a whole bye week to prepare. The time for singing kumbaya was before that game. Anyone still talking about Bryce earning a second contract 43 games into his career is living a fantasy. He might get one from the Tepper owned Panthers but he's damn sure not earned it.
    • mrcompletely11
      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By mrcompletely11 · Posted

      This reads like your defense of fitterer 
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