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Examining The First 3 Rounds


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I disagree with corner being such a big need. We just need Horn and Donte to stay healthy. Your example of the Bucs is off base as when we had healthy corners we held them to 3 points. In the game Evans smoked us both Horn and Donte were out…

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MHS, I appreciate the work you did here. 

It opened my eyes to how slight/light the receivers are in the second round. While they might be talented,  I think that puts the edge guys as the bigger BPA in that round.

Blocking defensive ends like what we'll be after can be had later in the draft.  Corners always seem to be good day 3 picks. 

If it were me, which thank God it isn't,  I'd go Edge in the 2nd, receiver in the 3rd. 

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I had my own concerns about needing another edge rusher...until we switched to a 3-4 defense. Burns will obviously be the primary pass rusher. The other OLB will be more versatile. Blitz the QB, stop the run and drop back in coverage. I say keep your eye on Brandon Smith. He might be perfect for that role!

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14 hours ago, BriceYung9 said:

 This draft isn’t going to blow you away at WR with the talent at the top but there is sneaky day 2-3 potential.

I like some of the day 3 WRs as much as day 2, based on our needs.  I think we find one at some point, but not sure he helps much this year--but then again, we really need one in the event of injury--this year--but the need is there for 2024.  Like the way you said this.

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13 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I want Downs in the 2nd or Boutte in the 3rd. I think we need another WR especially after hearing about Chark’s recent ankle surgery.

I read an article or comment about Boutte that turned me against him--they accused him of "lazy" route running and inconsistent hands.  For what it is worth to anyone, I took him off my board for that reason, because when I see his name, that is what pops into my brain.

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13 hours ago, thunderraiden said:

We still are very weak at NT which is vital in a 3-4. I think people should be ready for Mazi from Michigan if he's available.

That is another position that is a bit unclear right now.  We have McCall (56.8) who was decent in limited duty last year and Roy (54.0), who was slightly below average, according to PFF, my only measure of their performance.  Both weigh over 330 lbs.  Then we sign Tuttle, and everyone says he will play nose between Brown and Williams.  I do not see that.  I see YGM (pass rushing specialist on the inside?) and Williams in a rotation with Tuttle and Brown.  If so, are they going with McCall and Roy at NT?  I would hope not.

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2 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Sure would be a shame to overlook TE in this class...

 

I know--and we have a few bucks to spend--I would love to see us take away a need or two before the draft.  CB (Shaq Griffin to play nickel, backup CB) would be great, and I think we can find a solid WR like Jarvis Landry. 

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    • Oh it's nothing elite, but we played without Horn last year.  Gilly playing at 80% is better than any CB2 we have had in a moment.  Luvu was fun, but he was out of position in Evero's defense.  Jewell is a tackling machine and has had over 100 in 3 of his last 4 with his highest being at Denver with Evero.  Pass Rushing and CBs are strong red flags but they also were last year.  On paper it's the same or maybe slightly better than last year and Evero had them keeping us in some games.  Hell our 2 wins were due to the defense and the kicking game.
    • I mean best case scenario is horn plays 15ish games, brown and clowney replicate last years stats, we sign gilmore and he reverts back to form after his injury but even then we still lack pass rush and our linebackers are dogshit.  And thats best case.  If horn goes down and if clowney starts showing his age then it could get ugly.  We are going to miss the tenacity of luvu.
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