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Gerry Green

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8 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

op what is the source for that 2.5 seconds

If you are curious what the actual stats are 

PFF average time to throw Reg + Post Season are

Bryce Young

2021 - 2.79

2022 - 3.02

CJ Stroud

2021 - 2.68

2022 - 2.92

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12 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

Thanks for the civility. It is appreciated. I know Young goes through reads. So does CJ. The question is; Why does Young's running around seem to be part of his Pocket Awareness? 

 

He gets credit for leaving the pocket. And CJ gets no credit for his pocket awareness? 

 

If we take Young I'll be excited. For as long as it lasts.

 

IF we take CJ, I'll be happy for years and years.

I like CJ a lot too. I like Corral as well (and catch hate for that lol).

 

I’ve given up on worrying about Young getting hurt. 
 

At the end of the day, I assume being small means “hurt more often” but I can’t back that up with anything outside of bias and instinct (personally…just me), so I’m letting it go. 
 

Darnold gets hurt consistently, and he’s prototype. Hooker in this draft? Prototype…got hurt. Big Ben…huge…dealt with injuries his whole career. 
 

This doesn’t prove anything I know, but it seems more random than anything, and at minimum more complicated; with more variables than simple height a weight. Some guys are tougher than others too. 
 

How flexible is the player? How instinctual are they? Do they “feel” a big hit coming and get down? Are they too tough for their own good (maybe Cam)? Do they have frail bones or thick bones? Maybe diet influences? Genes?

 

You get the idea. Just too many variables and hypotheticals.

 

I get the concern though because I’ve felt it too, but I just don’t know how valid the concern I feel is or not. 
 

Anyway I think you are a good poster Gerry so don’t let the trolls get you down. 

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1 minute ago, Gerry Green said:

 

Yes, yes I do. You don't use the resources we used to pick a QB that probably has no shelf life.

You also don’t use the resources to pick somebody just because they’re “safe” which is essentially what Stroud is. Which isn’t bad but it’s conservative. 
 

I gotta push back on the shelf life thing too because a lot of people on here talk as if Bryce destined to have a career ending injury at some point. That’s kind of insane because we’ve seen much bigger QB’s get hurt at a way higher rate. The dude has had one self inflicted injury in his entire career. He isn’t coming out with the injury history of Tua or something. 
 

His size makes him an outlier, yes, but way too many people on here are speaking as if it’s a done deal that his career gets cut short by injury. Let’s at least let him get on the field first. 

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2 minutes ago, stan786 said:

If you are curious what the actual stats are 

PFF average time to throw Reg + Post Season are

Bryce Young

2021 - 2.79

2022 - 3.02

CJ Stroud

2021 - 2.68

2022 - 2.92

He's obviously better than CJ. LOOK these stats prove it. He's better than Kyler and Matt Corral too. They told me so! It must be true!!!

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11 minutes ago, stan786 said:

If you are curious what the actual stats are 

PFF average time to throw Reg + Post Season are

Bryce Young

2021 - 2.79

2022 - 3.02

CJ Stroud

2021 - 2.68

2022 - 2.92

With the Stroud contingent hanging their hat so hard on that particular measurable I expected a lot more significant gap than that.

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4 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I like CJ a lot too. I like Corral as well (and catch hate for that lol).

 

I’ve given up on worrying about Young getting hurt. 
 

At the end of the day, I assume being small means “hurt more often” but I can’t back that up with anything outside of bias and instinct (personally…just me), so I’m letting it go. 
 

Darnold gets hurt consistently, and he’s prototype. Hooker in this draft? Prototype…got hurt. Big Ben…huge…dealt with injuries his whole career. 
 

This doesn’t prove anything I know, but it seems more random than anything, and at minimum more complicated; with more variables than simple height a weight. Some guys are tougher than others too. 
 

How flexible is the player? How instinctual are they? Do they “feel” a big hit coming and get down? Are they too tough for their own good (maybe Cam)? Do they have frail bones or thick bones? Maybe diet influences? Genes?

 

You get the idea. Just too many variables and hypotheticals.

 

I get the concern though because I’ve felt it too, but I just don’t know how valid the concern I feel is or not. 
 

Anyway I think you are a good poster Gerry so don’t let the trolls get you down. 

 

Hey, I get it. People love Young's game. But IMO it is a college game. It just won't fly in the NFL. He isn't fast enough to outrun anyone. He has no zip on his passes. And he is smaller than ideal.

 

Add it all up. You get someone else's problem. Hopefully

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