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Round 3 - The Carolina Panthers Select DJ Johnson - EDGE - Oregon


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6 minutes ago, Growl said:

I’m really trying not to pile on a consensus of criticizing the pick before I’ve seen the guy play, but it is frustrating to think we came out of last night without a player that will plug a gap from day 1. Those guys were available and we didn’t come away with any of them. 
 

now I feel like I’m asking a lot of this 4th round pick just to hopefully provide a guy who can compete for a starting spot while the 2nd and 3rd rounders develop. 

The 4rth better produce a damn offensive lineman, there are plenty left that could add crucial depth which we dont have

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From Brugler's draft guide, heres basically where we were after the top guys went and Byron Young going a few spots ahead of us. So we did reach, but it was thin. It will be interesting when/where KJ Henry goes and if we totally whiffed on the rankings of the two guys

 

15. ISAIAH MCGUIRE Missouri 3rd-4th 4SR 6043 268 4.76

16. NICK HAMPTON Appalachian State 3rd-4th 5SR 6022 236 4.58

17. BYRON YOUNG Tennessee 3rd-4th 5SR 6023 250 4.40 

18. DYLAN HORTON TCU 4th 5SR 6040 257 4.73 

19. TYRUS WHEAT Mississippi State 4th 5SR 6020 263 4.65 

20. K.J. HENRY Clemson 4th 5SR 6042 251 4.63 

21. DJ JOHNSON Oregon 4th-5th 6SR 6040 260 4.49 

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