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Mahomes has great instincts but he's not a game tape and nose in the playbook sort. The Favre comparison fits; I don't consider either one "high football IQ" QBs. They never had to be because they could just force it through with their arm strength. Bryce has to overcome his lack of arm strength with prep and work ethic.

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On 5/14/2023 at 1:21 PM, CPcavedweller said:

Mahomes is Favre if Favre had Andy Reid as a head coach. They are basically carbon copies of one another. And before you say "interceptions", Mahomes is only like 0.7% better in his TD-INT ratio.

Uuuhhh...no.

Favre always had just general vicinity accuracy and was capable of being wildly inconsistent. People loved the high velocity of his throws, but judgment wise he was easily capable of following up an "OMG" throw with a "WTF" one. Hell, Packer fans cheered when he finally learned to throw one away rather than taking a huge risk.

Mahomes is far more stable. Yes, people rave about his wild "off platform" throws but what's actually most important is that his regular throws are accurate and consistent.

Does Reid's system help? I'm sure it does because it's helped every other quarterback he's coached, but that doesn't mean Mahomes isn't talented.

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On 5/15/2023 at 1:39 PM, Mr. Scot said:

Uuuhhh...no.

Favre always had just general vicinity accuracy and was capable of being wildly inconsistent. People loved the high velocity of his throws, but judgment wise he was easily capable of following up an "OMG" throw with a "WTF" one. Hell, Packer fans cheered when he finally learned to throw one away rather than taking a huge risk.

Mahomes is far more stable. Yes, people rave about his wild "off platform" throws but what's actually most important is that his regular throws are accurate and consistent.

Does Reid's system help? I'm sure it does because it's helped every other quarterback he's coached, but that doesn't mean Mahomes isn't talented.

Go watch games from both, back to back. Or highlights. Or whatever. Favre won three MVP's, back-to-back-to-back. When Mahomes does that, you can @ me. 

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3 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Go watch games from both, back to back. Or highlights. Or whatever. Favre won three MVP's, back-to-back-to-back. When Mahomes does that, you can @ me. 

Mahomes already has 2 Super Bowl wins and didn't try to defraud a state's welfare system.  When Favre does that you can @ me.  Oh and Mahomes is only 27....

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46 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Mahomes already has 2 Super Bowl wins and didn't try to defraud a state's welfare system.  When Favre does that you can @ me.  Oh and Mahomes is only 27....

Give Mahomes a chance, he still has time to defraud people. As for Super Bowls, there is quite the difference between what Favre was able to do in the 90's versus Mahomes today. Put Favre in today's game, with the guardrails up and a seasoned Andy Reid and you'd get the same result.

Favre is on Mount Rushmore. Mahomes is still on his way to South Dakota.

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5 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Give Mahomes a chance, he still has time to defraud people. As for Super Bowls, there is quite the difference between what Favre was able to do in the 90's versus Mahomes today. Put Favre in today's game, with the guardrails up and a seasoned Andy Reid and you'd get the same result.

Favre is on Mount Rushmore. Mahomes is still on his way to South Dakota.

Mahomes has twice as many Super Bowl victories at age 27.  He has a great TE but not many other weapons on offense this year.  Mahomes is already better than Favre IMO.  He is going to be competing for a Super Bowl as long as he stays healthy every year.  The only stats Favre beats him in are the ones that are cumulative because he has played longer and even considering that Mahomes is tracking to beat every one of them.  I'm sorry if Favre was your childhood hero, but Mahomes is looking like the better QB.  

https://www.statspros.com/brett-favre-vs-patrick-mahomes-stats/

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On 5/16/2023 at 2:40 PM, CPcavedweller said:

Give Mahomes a chance, he still has time to defraud people. As for Super Bowls, there is quite the difference between what Favre was able to do in the 90's versus Mahomes today. Put Favre in today's game, with the guardrails up and a seasoned Andy Reid and you'd get the same result.

Favre is on Mount Rushmore. Mahomes is still on his way to South Dakota.

 

lol It's posts like this that keep me reupping my subscription every year.

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