Friday 08.04 Practice Thread

[mrcompletely11]

20 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

There hasn't been much on him. He is getting the PJ Walker equivalent reps this TC, which is more than last year but still not a lot.

From the small clips I've seen here and there he still has plenty of zip on all his throws, I think he definitely has the strongest arm on the team.

the lack of corral intel is kindof surprising

[Ricky Spanish]

17 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

the lack of corral intel is kindof surprising

He's a 3rd round pick from the previous regime who hasn't played meaningful football in over 2 years.

He got screwed the moment we drafted him unfortunately. I would love to see him turn it all around and become a stud, but the opportunities to do so will be few and far between.

The only way I see him getting some PT is if we are eliminated from playoff contention relatively early and BY gets hurt. If we're still in contention they'll throw Dalton out there to keep the ship steady until Bryce heals up, but if we are sucking they could play Corral to see what they have in him.

His journey to relevancy is going to be a long and difficult one.

[mrcompletely11]

26 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

He's a 3rd round pick from the previous regime who hasn't played meaningful football in over 2 years.

He got screwed the moment we drafted him unfortunately. I would love to see him turn it all around and become a stud, but the opportunities to do so will be few and far between.

The only way I see him getting some PT is if we are eliminated from playoff contention relatively early and BY gets hurt. If we're still in contention they'll throw Dalton out there to keep the ship steady until Bryce heals up, but if we are sucking they could play Corral to see what they have in him.

His journey to relevancy is going to be a long and difficult one.

I would have thought the team would be trying to drop info about how good he is doing etc etc etc in an attempt to trade him for anything.   Maybe the preseason games will tell us something 

[Ricky Spanish]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I would have thought the team would be trying to drop info about how good he is doing etc etc etc in an attempt to trade him for anything.   Maybe the preseason games will tell us something 

I don't think they plan on dealing him this year. Probably seeing what they have in him this season so they can see what to do with him next year. There was that new rule implemented because of what happened to SF where it's essentially a free roster spot for a QB on gamedays now.

[mrcompletely11]

12 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I don't think they plan on dealing him this year. Probably seeing what they have in him this season so they can see what to do with him next year. There was that new rule implemented because of what happened to SF where it's essentially a free roster spot for a QB on gamedays now.

But he may just not be any good at all.   I guess we will see shortly.  Game less than a week.   If he doesn’t play at least a full quarter or so then we may have our answer.  

[Icege]

It's worth noting that with the 17-game season and injuries still piling up at the QB position that if Corral can show that he can learn + develop, he'll be a Panther as QB3.

The need for a 3rd QB has been seen for the last few seasons and with recent rule changes it's worth spending a spot on the 53 on a guy that you don't have to activate (but can still play should you need an emergency guy) on gameday.

Dalton's contract has him hear this season and next. They can cut him next season, but I think the team is hoping to roll with the current QB room for the next two seasons. After that, they'll assess where they're at and go from there.

[Gerry Green]

24 minutes ago, Icege said:

It's worth noting that with the 17-game season and injuries still piling up at the QB position that if Corral can show that he can learn + develop, he'll be a Panther as QB3.

The need for a 3rd QB has been seen for the last few seasons and with recent rule changes it's worth spending a spot on the 53 on a guy that you don't have to activate (but can still play should you need an emergency guy) on gameday.

Dalton's contract has him hear this season and next. They can cut him next season, but I think the team is hoping to roll with the current QB room for the next two seasons. After that, they'll assess where they're at and go from there.

 

A very reasonable take if you ask me. Corral doesn't have to set the world on fire, he just needs to keep improving. Taking what they give him and giving 100% back. He's either going to be our backup QB, maybe traded for assets, or just sent packing. It is an interesting situation to be sure. My advice? Sit back and enjoy the show.

 

Best case, he grows into something we can work with. Worst case, he doesn't.

[KillerKat]

1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I don't think they plan on dealing him this year. Probably seeing what they have in him this season so they can see what to do with him next year. There was that new rule implemented because of what happened to SF where it's essentially a free roster spot for a QB on gamedays now.

I dont think its worth seeing how good a 3rd string QB is when you already have a franchise QB on the roster. Cut your losses and use the spot somewhere else.

[Ricky Spanish]

8 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

I dont think its worth seeing how good a 3rd string QB is when you already have a franchise QB on the roster. Cut your losses and use the spot somewhere else.

You can't use that spot elsewhere, it's an emergency QB roster spot that doesn't count to your roster total on game days:

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-pass-proposal-to-allow-teams-to-have-third-qb-active-on-game-days-wit

You gotta look at it like we have two rookie QBs this year since he didn't really do anything all of last year. We have him under contract for the next couple years for super cheap, there's no point in getting rid of him, especially if he can develop into a #2 down the line, or even into trade bait for the end of his contract.

[Gerry Green]

10 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

You can't use that spot elsewhere, it's an emergency QB roster spot that doesn't count to your roster total on game days:

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-pass-proposal-to-allow-teams-to-have-third-qb-active-on-game-days-wit

You gotta look at it like we have two rookie QBs this year since he didn't really do anything all of last year. We have him under contract for the next couple years for super cheap, there's no point in getting rid of him, especially if he can develop into a #2 down the line, or even into trade bait for the end of his contract.

 

He's already here, he's damm cheap, and he does have talent. There is no reasonable reason to get rid of him. It really does not cost us much to see if we cannot develop him into something of value. I know folks around here are not used to hearing "Develop" and thinking that's something we do. But it is now.

[KillerKat]

54 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

You can't use that spot elsewhere, it's an emergency QB roster spot that doesn't count to your roster total on game days:

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-pass-proposal-to-allow-teams-to-have-third-qb-active-on-game-days-wit

You gotta look at it like we have two rookie QBs this year since he didn't really do anything all of last year. We have him under contract for the next couple years for super cheap, there's no point in getting rid of him, especially if he can develop into a #2 down the line, or even into trade bait for the end of his contract.

he still counts against the 53, yes you can.

[Gerry Green]

6 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

he still counts against the 53, yes you can.

 

You aren't winning or losing because of that 53rd guy. Might as well be someone that COULD develop into an asset. It's just good bidness.

 

If you don't want to try and stash him on the PS because he will get poached. You might as well keep him on the roster. Pretty much the only two options you have.

 

I just don't get it. Just because our last coaching staff pooed the pooch, does not automatically mean our present coaching staff will make the same mistake.

[Icege]

18 hours ago, KillerKat said:

he still counts against the 53, yes you can.

 

18 hours ago, Gerry Green said:

 

You aren't winning or losing because of that 53rd guy. Might as well be someone that COULD develop into an asset. It's just good bidness.

 

If you don't want to try and stash him on the PS because he will get poached. You might as well keep him on the roster. Pretty much the only two options you have.

 

I just don't get it. Just because our last coaching staff pooed the pooch, does not automatically mean our present coaching staff will make the same mistake.

Combine that with the Bryce's size possibly being an issue and the aforementioned 17-game season, the team almost has to have a QB3 on the 53. If Bryce gets hurt, that guy that was the 53rd player is going to get cut for another back-up QB anyways. Mind as well keep Corral on a cheap contract with a much improved coaching staff. If he develops into a solid QB2, then there's the reassurance of a reliable back-up to Bryce and potential trade bait.

Edited August 7, 2023 by Icege

[shaqattaq]

On 8/4/2023 at 6:34 PM, Captain Morgan said:

Brady is our swing tackle...last year was the first time he played guard, and it didn't go very well.  He may be a starting guard this year, but if someone gets hurt, I'm pretty sure we'll put him in instead of Cam.

long term, I agree. Mid-game, I think you bring in Cam to finish it out. I've never been a fan of moving your starting G to T (or C, for that matter) as it weakens 2 spots on the line. 

FWIW, I think Mays mainly played RT at Tenn.