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Preseason DOESN'T matter per huddle insiders... John Harbaugh has a PSA for ya

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42 minutes ago, Varking said:

There is no correlation between dominating preseason and dominating in the regular season. Also, in years past you had these guys who were starters throwing 50+ passes in preseason. Bryce has thrown how many? 

If the starting QBs were on the field for like 12 drives in preseason, starters now get like 5. 

You often have rookie defensive ends make little to no impact during preseason and then they have 7.5+ sacks as a rookie. 

 

DJ Moore is a terrible preseason player. Yet he almost always puts up 1k yards in the regular season. DJ has 1 catch off of 1 target for a 62 yard touchdown in Chicago this year. He never caught a TD in any other preseason with us. And his 62 yards this year is only lower than his 75 yards in his rookie year. And in his rookie year he only caught 4 of the 12 passes thrown his way. 

And there are countless examples of guys like this.

You guys are taking statements and trying to remove context. Winning and losing in preseason? Absolutely DOES NOT MATTER. Effort matters, sure. But you also need to remember that this is preseason and that is has no bearing on predicting how a player will perform in the regular season. 

 

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4 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Who?  Who have you seen perform at a high level through 2 games?

Dude, I'm not just looking at two preseason games.

Ickey did damned well last season. Do you think he just forgot how to play? Do you think Shaq, Woods, Jones, Bozeman, T-mo and even some of the others have forgotten how to play at a high level based upon two fuging preseason games? Do you think guys like Campen have forgotten how to coach? I'm asking you too @Stumpy.

If this is what you believe, then I have nothing for you.

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38 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Dude, I'm not just looking at two preseason games.

Ickey did damned well last season. Do you think he just forgot how to play? Do you think Shaq, Woods, Jones, Bozeman, T-mo and even some of the others have forgotten how to play at a high level based upon two fuging preseason games? Do you think guys like Campen have forgotten how to coach? I'm asking you too @Stumpy.

If this is what you believe, then I have nothing for you.

How many times have we as Panthers fans witnessed firsthand players "forgetting how to play" (aka regressing) due to poo coaching?

Damn near every player on our team "forgot how to play" under Rhule. Then, they all magically remembered once he was fired. 

We had a coach who knew how to maximize the talent of his players. Unfortunately, Tepper is a shrewd enough business man to recognize that half his teams fan base would rather lose with a white man in charge than win with a fiery black man at the helm.

We strung Wilks along for months when they had no intention of hiring him and brought in a soft spoken white preacherman who makes the fans feel more comfortable.

We were damn near a playoff team last season with only 10 weeks of solid coaching. Daboll turned around the Giants from day 1. Meanwhile,we got fans ready to sign up for another one of Jay Z's patented 7 year plans...

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8 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

Unfortunately, Tepper is a shrewd enough business man to recognize that half his teams fan base would rather lose with a white man in charge than win with a fiery black man at the helm.

We strung Wilks along for months when they had no intention of hiring him and brought in a soft spoken white preacherman who makes the fans feel more comfortable.

 

This is such an absolutely stupid take. 

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19 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

How many times have we as Panthers fans witnessed firsthand players "forgetting how to play" (aka regressing) due to poo coaching?

Damn near every player on our team "forgot how to play" under Rhule. Then, they all magically remembered once he was fired. 

We had a coach who knew how to maximize the talent of his players. Unfortunately, Tepper is a shrewd enough business man to recognize that half his teams fan base would rather lose with a white man in charge than win with a fiery black man at the helm.

We strung Wilks along for months when they had no intention of hiring him and brought in a soft spoken white preacherman who makes the fans feel more comfortable.

We were damn near a playoff team last season with only 10 weeks of solid coaching. Daboll turned around the Giants from day 1. Meanwhile,we got fans ready to sign up for another one of Jay Z's patented 7 year plans...

Wilks wasn't the OL coach. Campen was and is. It took Ickey a few games last year. New offense so probably expect the same 

It's what preseason is for after all 

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Let's just all hold on until Sept. 10. Then all of this either won't matter or we can say it really did.

And then we can move on, because we have to. The real season starts, the real team takes the field, the real results happen and the real consequences or rewards play out.

 

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35 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

How many times have we as Panthers fans witnessed firsthand players "forgetting how to play" (aka regressing) due to poo coaching?

Damn near every player on our team "forgot how to play" under Rhule. Then, they all magically remembered once he was fired. 

We had a coach who knew how to maximize the talent of his players. Unfortunately, Tepper is a shrewd enough business man to recognize that half his teams fan base would rather lose with a white man in charge than win with a fiery black man at the helm.

We strung Wilks along for months when they had no intention of hiring him and brought in a soft spoken white preacherman who makes the fans feel more comfortable.

We were damn near a playoff team last season with only 10 weeks of solid coaching. Daboll turned around the Giants from day 1. Meanwhile,we got fans ready to sign up for another one of Jay Z's patented 7 year plans...

They did not forget how to play. Don't get a losing record, bad coaching, sketchy QB play, injuries and such mixed up with forgetting how to play. 

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10 minutes ago, top dawg said:

They did not forget how to play. Don't get a losing record, bad coaching, sketchy QB play, injuries and such mixed up with forgetting how to play. 

Huh, so what you are saying is that a bad coach can make players look worse than they are...?

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