College Football 2023

[LinvilleGorge]

An 11-3 season winning the conference championship and going to the Orange Bowl with a top 10 final ranking is a down year for Clemson. That's what Dabo has brought to Clemson. If they want to fire him all but a tiny handful of coaches in the country would be nervous if Dabo reached out to their program expressing interest.

[beo]

12 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

UNC gone to the SEC in 2025, they put one foot out the door when NC state flipped the vote the other day. 

UNC's foot has been out the door, they're actively trying to kill the conference just like FSU is. Just aren't as public about it. The point of the expansion is to have replacements for when UNC, Clemson and FSU jet for tv money. NC State actually decided to look out for itself for once, I respect it.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

An 11-3 season winning the conference championship and going to the Orange Bowl with a top 10 final ranking is a down year for Clemson. That's what Dabo has brought to Clemson. If they want to fire him all but a tiny handful of coaches in the country would be nervous if Dabo reached out to their program expressing interest.

If you fire Dabo, there is basically a 99% chance you are going to do worse than Dabo.   Maybe greater than that, because the better coaches ain’t coming to Clemson. 

[carpanfan96]

Just now, CRA said:

If you fire Dabo, there is basically a 99% chance you are going to do worse than Dabo.   Maybe greater than that, because the better coaches ain’t coming to Clemson. 

I think he's lost the coaches that made him as good as he was and he hasn't been able to replace them but I do agree it would be silly to fire him. I just won't be surprised if it happens 

[Davidson Deac II]

27 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Duke beating Clemson is absolutely terrible for the ACC.

Not really.

Its one ACC team beating another.  And if Clemson isn't that good, they weren't going to challenge for the championship anyway.  

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

If you fire Dabo, there is basically a 99% chance you are going to do worse than Dabo.   Maybe greater than that, because the better coaches ain’t coming to Clemson. 

If he reached out said he wanted to come to UNC, I'd tell Mack to make it a memorable one because you're retiring at the end of the season.

[OceanPanther]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Probably a little with the fans. 

reality is Dabo could run the wildcat and find a way to get close to 10 wins.   People are gonna do the Clemson bashing for awhile but it still won’t change the talent gap.  Every opponent isn’t going to get the results Duke did tonight when Clemson drives the field on them.   

Clemson is going to win a lot of ugly games in the ACC.  Just like the last 2 years.  They aren’t title contenders.  They will be tough for virtually everyone not named FSU though. 

How good will Notre Dame be ? 
I know they can’t play for the ACC championship. 
 

Duke won’t fair well due to their ACC schedule. They play Notre Dame, Florida State, UNC,  NC State, Louisville ( and Clempson) . They will win some , but not all.  

[OceanPanther]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If he reached out said he wanted to come to UNC, I'd tell Mack to make it a memorable one because you're retiring at the end of the season.

I’d love that,, but Sabin is the same age as Mack and Alabama would come looking too 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, OceanPanther said:

I’d love that,, but Sabin is the same age as Mack and Alabama would come looking too 

It's all moot because there's no way in hell Dabo is getting fired.

Well, Bama might not be moot. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if they didn't show up to Dabo's house with a blank check when Saban calls it a career.

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

I think he's lost the coaches that made him as good as he was and he hasn't been able to replace them but I do agree it would be silly to fire him. I just won't be surprised if it happens 

Well, I don’t disagree.  But that’s why I was excited for this year and Garett Riley.   But that was horrible on Riley’s part.  That’s the worst Cade has looked.  Maybe it’s Dabo putting his thumb print on it.  It sure did seem DJUish.  The design and asks of the QB. 

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, OceanPanther said:

I’d love that,, but Sabin is the same age as Mack and Alabama would come looking too 

I’m not sure Dabo would want to follow up Saban.  It would basically be like a coach signing up to follow Dabo.   You aren’t going to look good. 

[LinvilleGorge]

The offensive concerns are legit. Once again Clemson has a starting QB that had shown promise prior to being named the starter only to look like he's forgotten how to play QB once he becomes the full-time starter.

[carpanfan96]

8 minutes ago, CRA said:

Well, I don’t disagree.  But that’s why I was excited for this year and Garett Riley.   But that was horrible on Riley’s part.  That’s the worst Cade has looked.  Maybe it’s Dabo putting his thumb print on it.  It sure did seem DJUish.  The design and asks of the QB. 

That's what I think as well. 

[CRA]

12 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Not really.

Its one ACC team beating another.  And if Clemson isn't that good, they weren't going to challenge for the championship anyway.  

No but they would have counted as a quality win for FSU if FSU has the season they hope for.  Clemson is really the only one on the schedule for FSU.  So it robbed them of claiming 2 wins against top 10 teams.   Clemson is really the only team in the ACC with real weight to their name.   And the only ranked opponent FSU will likely see.  Someone might sneak into the bottom of the top 25 I guess.