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Just now, Gerry Green said:

 

let's quit living in the past. Let's stick to what is relevant for this year. We all know you are the most negative poster here. Not surprised you'd think like this.

Let's quit living in the past and pay a player based on what we hope he turns out to be instead of what he's actually done on the field. Marty is that you? 

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2 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

And that is your opinion. Just because you can think it, does not make it so.

The contracts are the contracts.  What do elite pass rushing specialist get?  That’s not opinion. 

now, it is my opinion Burns is an elite pass rusher.   He isn’t Julius Peppers 2.0.  Burns has done little outside of rush the passer in the NFL at a high level.  

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1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

8th in sacks, 3rd in pressures, top 10 in run stuffs. Top ten in tackles among edge players. Moving to a position that fits his build and play style even more... 

 

Now this is true information. Too bad folks won't believe it, or will just ignore it. Facts don't work on the folks thinking the worst.

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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

The contracts are the contracts.  What do elite pass rushing specialist get?  That’s not opinion. 

now, it is my opinion Burns is an elite pass rusher.   He isn’t Julius Peppers 2.0.  Burns has done little outside of rush the passer in the NFL at a high level.  

 

Read the post below yours then get back to me.

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1 hour ago, Gerry Green said:

 

lol God I love this place. The Rams don't offer 2 1st and more for a "Slightly above average pass rusher". 

Look at his numbers.  He's not putting up 15 sacks a year. He wants watt money and has never dominated like that.  He is very good but isn't a top 10 guy imo. Average would be a guy in the 25-35 range.  He's is in the 20-10 range but he isn't a top 10 pass rusher

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Just now, toldozer said:

Look at his numbers.  He's not putting up 15 sacks a year. He wants watt money and has never dominated like that.  He is very good but isn't a top 10 guy imo. Average would be a guy in the 25-35 range.  He's is in the 20-10 range but he isn't a top 10 pass rusher

 

8th in sacks, 3rd in pressures, top 10 in run stuffs. Top ten in tackles among edge players. Moving to a position that fits his build and play style even more... 

 

Yeah, he's nothing special. LOL

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3 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

8th in sacks, 3rd in pressures, top 10 in run stuffs. Top ten in tackles among edge players. Moving to a position that fits his build and play style even more... 

 

Yeah, he's nothing special. LOL

The eye test tells me 2 first and a second is worth more then him at 20 million dollars a year.  Doesn't mean he isn't good I just don't think he's great

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24 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

Read the post below yours then get back to me.

I read it.  Brian Burns is an elite pass rusher.  That’s what I said.  And then someone posted his pass rushing stats. 

if you want to argue Burns is Peppers 2.0 or comparable to Bosa tier player, you would need to supply some facts for that argument.   Which wouldn’t be his sacks or pressures. Because that’s acknowledged in the initial statement. 

 

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4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Biggest game of his career.  55 pff rating.   How about them facts?

PFF didn’t grade him out as a top 25 edge player in 2022.   Because more than pass rushing was factored.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2022-edge-defender-rankings

But Burns is an elite pass rusher.  But those wanting him to get the same deal Bosa gets are way off.  And it’s not Burns hate to acknowledge he isn’t a Bosa 

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