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18 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Pay burns, build around him.

Hats off the Zavala--not perfect, but a first game rookie vs some veteran talent.

and moving from LG to RG with almost no preseason. He was certainly a bright spot.

Hell, the whole O-line was a bright spot after a frankly (pun not intended) scary preseason.

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12 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Splitting hairs here, yes QB runs count, but effectiveness of a rushing attack generally doesn't hinge on your QB.  Chubb>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sanders/Hubbard

i dont think there is a single person in their right mind that will sit there and at tell you that sanders or hubbard are better than Chubb. However, you can't just remove stats to make a point. That is not real life.

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21 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We lost the game on turnovers. It's hard to win games at any level when you're -3 in the turnover column. It's REALLY hard to do it at the NFL level.

Eh, I’d mark it turnovers and poor play calling. I thought Reich was suppose to be a good play caller, he never went back to what was working in the first half in the second. 

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3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

i dont think there is a single person in their right mind that will sit there and at tell you that sanders or hubbard are better than Chubb. However, you can't just remove stats to make a point. That is not real life.

You win dude, go buy a latte in celebration.  I was comparing RBs and removing Waston's stats to prove a point among RBs. Not a single person in their right mind--as you say-- would suggest QBs rushing stats are somehow trivial or don't count, but when comparing position groups I'm pretty sure QBs and RBs are different.

Pat on the back bro, I'm done.

 

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2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

You win dude, go buy a latte in celebration.  I was comparing RBs and removing Waston's stats to prove a point among RBs. Not a single person in their right mind--as you say-- would suggest QBs rushing stats are somehow trivial or don't count, but when comparing position groups I'm pretty sure QBs and RBs are different.

Pat on the back bro, I'm done.

 

i didnt even think this was a debate... I believe the origination of our conversation was me just sharing that the browns went in with a run heavy attack and it worked against the bengals. I was just a passenger of the direction that this conversation went.

I had no idea this was even an argument or debate. 

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2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

i didnt even think this was a debate... I believe the origination of our conversation was me just sharing that the browns went in with a run heavy attack and it worked against the bengals. I was just a passenger of the direction that this conversation went.

I had no idea this was even an argument or debate. 

It's all good, but I don't do the continuous back and forth posts anymore like I would have in the past.  I think we understand where each other was coming from now, so it's moot to further it. 

Have a great Monday sir!

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2 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

Falcons fans are extremely overconfident right now but their QB looked like garbage. They will come down to reality very soon. 

Yeah, I was NOT impressed by the Falcons.  Yesterday was a classic example of a team beating itself.  We don't turn the ball over like that, the Falcons probably only put up 7-10 points. 

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2 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Eh, I’d mark it turnovers and poor play calling. I thought Reich was suppose to be a good play caller, he never went back to what was working in the first half in the second. 

Why the hell is Reich still calling plays in the first place?  Just let Brown cook already.  Sheesh.

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3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

My only concern is the Horn injury.  Yes, we gave up 17 points off turnovers, but they torched Henderson--and a TE beat him deep.  No excuse for that.

I would not be surprised to see us bring in (or up) someone.  If you need proof of his heart, watch him when he has a chance to make a tackle--especially in a crowd. Nobody is that un-athletic. 

Offensive pi that was a horrible call of defensive PI.. 
Not giving CJ any credit but that was a horrible call..

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4 hours ago, SaltAndPepper said:

If you look at the gamesheet, I almost laugh at the fact that if we didn't have turnovers, we would've beat the daylights out of the falcons. I can't remember for the life of me remember the last time we had a game like this. And this was on Bryce's first game. If Bryce cleans that up and Sanders doesn't fumble anymore, I'm still positive that this team can have a winning record. Even if this was against the falcons...
 

  • We had more first downs (20 : 13)
  • We were more efficient on third down (5-14 : 2-10)
  • We had more total yards (281 : 221) (Including both more rushing and passing yards
  • We owned Time of Possession (35 minutes to 25)

The only places we got outdone are penalties ( 9-66 : 6-43), average gain of offensive play (3.9 : 4.6), Red Zone Effiency, and turnovers. 

Was this a sloppy game? Yes, absolutely, but there's still so much positive to build on. Literally every #1 pick had a lackluster debut, and Bryce is no exception to that. Look at Peyton Manning and Joe Burrow especially. Don't judge our rookie by the second or third game either. This entire season is about him absorbing knowledge. We have 5 years to make this work (It's really rare for a QB and Coach to win their first SB after five years if they haven't won one already). 

Does it suck to not have a first round pick? Yes, it does. But we'll still have a top 40 pick even if we're garbage. We also have free agency and trades. Scott fixed the O-Line in two years. I can give him another year to turn the team around. 

TLDR, don't overreact like the other people who have similar views posted, give this process time. If we win, we win the division and we laugh at the bears, but Bryce learning is the most important thing. 

PPS: Thank you for reading.

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Love this.. Exactly what I saw.. TO cost us and bad chemistry went against us.. Add in the ball bouncing ATlanta way and some horrible calls and it is what it is..

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Snap counts: https://www.panthers.com/news/snap-counts-week-1-at-atlanta

You can see why we signed Wormley, the defensive front is THIN...basically 4 guys held down the D-line all game (Ray got one play).  For those big boys, they had to be gassed.  Kudos to Brown for playing all but TWO defensive snaps at 320 in the game.  You know his butt is tired today.

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