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Predict Young’s stat line Sunday

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Like most weeks I don’t think it’s about Bryce but those around him if they play him.  

OL is allowing insane pressure.  Even with Dalton.  Andy survived a week as a 10+ year pro bowl vet.  But that amount of pressure getting into the backfield would lead to bad outcomes for him more times than not.  Minny comes  at the QB at a rate higher than anyone and is finally getting a weaker OL matchup after facing some tough ones.  Even Frank today was like, let’s be honest, they are going to get us and it’s about limiting how often.  Which isn’t exactly the mindset you love to hear. 

Just seems like a bad matchup for great numbers for the QB.   Think Carolina needs to find a run game and lean on it to have a real chance.   And for Frank to give the play calling to Brown to scheme up some guys off the play action.    Probably move the pocket more too. 

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1 hour ago, Varking said:

Mixon hasn’t been kind to me in fantasy yet. 

I’m not mad at 10.3, 13.5, and 14 points from him (PPR), sure I wish he had a boom game by now, but none of those are busts really, he’s been better than half of the top 25 drafted RBs this year.

He isn’t going to get much rushing yards against the Titans this week, it’s a matter of how many catches he gets and if he can get into the end zone.

My other RBs are Kyren and James Cook, both feel like safer plays than Mixon this week, and I’m not playing Thielen over Waddle, Olave, or Ridley.

So I’m debating Mixon in a tough matchup or Thielen in a great matchup and against his old team for my 2nd flex spot.

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People predicting pass attempts sub 30 must think he isn't going to finish the game or our defense is going to completely shut down the Vikings

His 2 games so far were both somewhat low scoring defensive battles where he had 33 and 38 pass attempts

The Vikings have a great offense that will put up points on us and a bad pass defense, Reich just showed us the kind of offense he wants to run, a lot of passes, Bryce is throwing it at least 30 times, potentially 40+

 

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28 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

People predicting pass attempts sub 30 must think he isn't going to finish the game or our defense is going to completely shut down the Vikings

His 2 games so far were both somewhat low scoring defensive battles where he had 33 and 38 pass attempts

The Vikings have a great offense that will put up points on us and a bad pass defense, Reich just showed us the kind of offense he wants to run, a lot of passes, Bryce is throwing it at least 30 times, potentially 40+

 

Frank doesn’t want to do what we did vs Seattle.  That’s how you lose. Frank wants to run the ball.   He just can’t here.  Given the pressure Dalton faced we got lucky.  You allow those absurd pressures again, you are going to see the other side of that pressure coin. 

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29 minutes ago, CRA said:

Frank doesn’t want to do what we did vs Seattle.  That’s how you lose. Frank wants to run the ball.   He just can’t here.  Given the pressure Dalton faced we got lucky.  You allow those absurd pressures again, you are going to see the other side of that pressure coin. 

We took the wrong QB if we want to be a run based team, I don't think Reich wants to be a run based team either, he wants to air it out.

Bryce's biggest asset is supposed to be his brain and reading defenses, you don't put that type of QB into a run based offense where, they belong in a pass based offense to read where the holes in the defense will be and to pick them apart.

If you want to be a run based team, you don't trade up as high and you draft AR.

 

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6 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

We took the wrong QB if we want to be a run based team, I don't think Reich wants to be a run based team either, he wants to air it out.

Bryce's biggest asset is supposed to be his brain and reading defenses, you don't put that type of QB into a run based offense where, they belong in a pass based offense to read where the holes in the defense will be and to pick them apart.

If you want to be a run based team, you don't trade up as high and you draft AR.

 

I think you’re right 

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Here are Matt Ryan game logs from last season. Those 58 pass attempts came in a win 

Just looking at those stats and then knowing Dalton threw it 58 times this past Sunday I think it’s fair to expect 35+ pass attempts on most Sundays from our QB

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      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By *FreeFua* · Posted

      And once again I showed you it’s been pretty even. We spent 2nd and 3rd rounders this past draft on edge rushers. No one’s going to sit here and do the math on a draft value chart etc. the only reason I even entertained this was because you said we’ve spent nothing on defense when that simply isn’t true. It also didn’t help we traded our ONLY WR worth a damn to trade up for Bryce soo… And this is kind of the issue with the anti Bryce crowd. This crowd tends to blame him for the trade up. I was team Stroud. Had the panthers not taken Young the only other QB they were going to take was Richardson. So your issue should be with Tepper, Morgan, Fitterer not Bryce.  Bryce is who he is and it was pretty obvious who he was during the draft process. Bryce is slowly developing into that guy most thought he’d be. Give him a WR like Jamo and this offense as a whole would improve greatly.  Anyone thinking he was the next Pat Mahomes or Josh Allen is clearly slow. Bryce was always going to need pieces around him much like EVERY other QB Burrow has Chase and Higgins and they’ve done nothing. After losing in AFC Championship in 2022, Burrow is 17-15. QB’s need a team around them It’s why a Jalen Hurts led Eagles team dismantled a Pat Mahomes led KC team in the SB Imo the QB’s doing the most with the least up until this year have been Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson  This year it’s Drake Maye and Josh Allen  Outside of the 3-5 elite type QB’s I’m not really sure what people expect here. Is Bryce ever going to be in that elite category? Nope. Should we punt on Bryce and keep swinging? I don’t think so. Should we keep swinging while hanging onto Bryce? Yeah but I don’t know what that looks like This team as a whole isn’t very good. Offense and defense and that’s the simple truth  
    • SmokinwithWilly
      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

      I didn't move the goal posts. But anyone who follows football who wants to engage in a rational discussion can't argue that 10 7th round picks are equal to 10 1st rounders in value. The argument has always been we haven't spent as much on defense has we have on offense. Draft picks have value just like salary. We have not spent the same amount of draft pick salary cap on defense that we have on offense since drafting Bryce. It's not even close. Just the 2 1sts we used on Bryce, 2 overall 1sts have a value of 6000. That doesn’t even factor in DJ Moore or the 2 2nds. Bryce cost more than everything we've spent on defense in 6 damn years. 
    • raleigh-panther
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      By raleigh-panther · Posted

      We need to hope this scenario plays our next week he fails with pressure…what that means with Evero, is beyond me
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