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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Howell was always clearly the best QB in that class.

you know me, he has totally shocked me with his play. washingtons OL is uber trash, no TEs or RBs that are able to help....just scary terry and an always hurt samuel. hes playing with nothing and playing great, not to mention RR isnt some offense guru either. not a fan of OC eric either, but done a super job too. 

flame away i liked corral thee best, but not in either of the first two rounds. hated all QBs, thought it was the worst since 2013. I mean besides the amazing howell, who has done anything- pickett and ridder LOLZs.

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I wasnt around much doing the off season but it must have been toxic. I cant remember the last time at fanbase turned on a #1 pick so fast. 

Usually no matter how bad a player is, a fanbase would bend over backwards to justify the pick. The Jamarcus Russell's and Zach Wilsons of the world still had the advocates after a year of play and people are giving up on Bryce after 3 games??

My assumption is this is mostly due to heavy debate in terms of who the QB should have been in the first place, but now that he's here I dont understand why some are waving the white flag after 80 NFL throws. 

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1 minute ago, emhoward said:

I wasnt around much doing the off season but it must have been toxic. I cant remember the last time at fanbase turned on a #1 pick so fast. 

Usually no matter how bad a player is, a fanbase would bend over backwards to justify the pick. The Jamarcus Russell's and Zach Wilsons of the world still had the advocates after a year of play and people are giving up on Bryce after 3 games??

My assumption is this is mostly due to heavy debate in terms of who the QB should have been in the first place, but now that he's here I dont understand why some are waving the white flag after 80 NFL throws. 

You saw flashes of special talent from those guys. There haven't been any flashes with Bryce.

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