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1 hour ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Unpopular opinion but Melo has always reminded me of Westbrook. He’s a chucker and when he’s on, great, but when he’s not, it ain’t good.

There’s usually no in between.

He's also vastly overrated by the Hornets' fanbase. He's a willing passer, but not a great passer. As you said, he's a chucker, and he's not a good defender either.

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17 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

He's also vastly overrated by the Hornets' fanbase. He's a willing passer, but not a great passer. As you said, he's a chucker, and he's not a good defender either.

He’s shooting 25% from the field for the season, that’s just not going to cut it. We aren’t a good enough team where we can win games with him doing that. We need 5 to 6 guys going in order to win games and if Ball’s not going then that makes it almost impossible for us to win.

I think Haliburton has passed up Ball as the best PG in the 2020 draft. Maxey might be better as well, if you consider him a true point guard. And Edwards is better but I have him as a combo guard.

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37 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

He's also vastly overrated by the Hornets' fanbase. He's a willing passer, but not a great passer. As you said, he's a chucker, and he's not a good defender either.

I'd say he's a flashy passer with good vision. What do you want him to do? Chest passes? His shooting has been ass lately but the dude can play. 

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19 minutes ago, toldozer said:

I'd say he's a flashy passer with good vision. What do you want him to do? Chest passes? His shooting has been ass lately but the dude can play. 

Flashy doesn't equal good. He's not playing for the Globetrotters, he's playing for the Hornets. A lot of his flashy passing has led to turnovers that should have been avoided. As for his shooting, that's always been ass. Jacking up 3s several feet past the line are not good shots. He also struggles to finish at the rim more than he should.

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Miller has looked great so far! Not just his stat lines, he’s making vet plays and adjustments in game. He has shown exactly why he was drafted over Scoot, who meanwhile has looked pretty bad.

I’m sure Scoot will come around, but some of his same problems he had in the G League are showing in the NBA. 1-18 from 3, not getting to the line, and more turnovers than assists so far. I honestly expected a lot more, especially with all the pieces they were able to put around him from the Lillard trade. I thought, at the very least, athletic slasher works enough to have a somewhat positive impact while the shooting and everything else develops. But he’s been ass.

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Bouknight had his option declined and just like that we can close the door on the historically bad 2021 Hornets draft class (Bouknight, Jones, Lewis).

This is how a team gets sets back, when the GM can’t even get one decent contributor out of an entire draft and in the process trades away a future first round pick for a fugging nut job.

Edit: JT Thor was a part of this class as well.

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