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2 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Honestly Dave Tepper is gonna fire everyone this offseason including Sir Purr and Darin Gantt 

Once upon of time Darin would have gone scorched earth on this owner and the current state of the Panthers, but he won’t because he pays Darin’s checks. 

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Just now, Shocker said:

No one can seriously put this a Bryce…no offensive talent and no defensive talent.  

The defense has allowed one touchdown. This offense can't even get one on the board. What do you want from the D? They doin' the best they can out here while Bryce and the offense been sitting on the bench most of the night.

Eviro looking at Brown and Reich like...

Kevin Hart Lol GIF

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2 minutes ago, Rocky Davis said:

The Panthers have some problem children in the locker room and it's being carried over to the field.

TMJ, Burns (not playing), Chark (not playing) all guys who in my opinion are not giving it their all. 

Then we got the lost boys:  Mingo, Ikey

I gotta hand it to Evero though, he is coordinating a depleted defense and they are playing hard.

I feel some of this too. Good points. 

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1 minute ago, falconlynx said:

I can. He’s showing me nothing for a #1 overall pick. 
 

And this defense has been the only reason these games have been as close as they’ve been thus far.

 

Oh yeah such a good defense playing the worst turnover margin team in the league tonight how many turnovers they forced against D2 Tyson Bagent?

D been trash all season.

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2 minutes ago, Wanderlai said:

Good lord man we can’t give up more 1sts…this team sucks to bad. We already fuged up the trade for Bryce. 

The defense have held their own in almost all of the games. The offense is fuging cheeks man. We need all the help we can get from the offense and it has to come from the draft by getting a playmaker. 

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