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Bills run game (and why we're absolutely awful schematically)


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Watching this Bills offense work, and man it is night and day. Forgetting the talent they have at RB, and across the board really, they do some very simple but effective things up front.

There isn't a question of who has who. They're running iso, fb lead ups, and some power. They're running the exact offense we need to be running but with good blocking and guys executing at a high level.

 

When I think about our own run game, it's almost entirely zone. Nothing wrong with zone...except when there is. You see, a lot of zone blocking depends on communication amongst the line. Each man needs to know what their responsibilities are, but then also what the man to either side of them will be doing so they know how to scale. A guard expecting a chip from his tackle will take a softer bucket step so he gets a bit more drive, depending on the chip to help get his hips around. When the tackle thinks he's free running second level instead....you get runs blown up at the line. 

Our best runs this season have been off of an iso and, iirc, a trap. Designed to be simple, you have a specific man you must block in a specific way. No guess work, just know the damn play and execute.

We have linemen we can't trust to get their assignments sorted out for inside zone and stretch work. Ron was awful at a lot, but his offenses always had basic concepts reigning supreme. Iso, power, blast/belly, trap. Our run game misses this, and the reason we do it is to set up the rpo....which we don't run really. Bryce hasn't had a single rpo called that I can remember. So we're giving a zone look in the run game to mask our rpo later and doing fuging nothing with either.

Just a fun aside while you're watching two functional offenses.

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1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If you go to the bills board, they are screaming about the play calls.  

Their problem to ight is turnovers. I don't care how brilliant your scheme and play calling is when you turn the ball over four times that's tough to overcome. Yet they probably still will if they can just avoid turnover #5.

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1 minute ago, lightsout said:

They're out of their minds. Run game is cooking. Allen missed some big throws, and the turnovers have killed them.

The play calling is good. 

They are complaining about going away from the run game.  They might be right.  Allen just made another bad pass, but he got lucky that it wasn't intercepted.  

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Just now, Davidson Deac II said:

They are complaining about going away from the run game.  They might be right.  Allen just made another bad pass, but he got lucky that it wasn't intercepted.  

Now that I can agree with but Allen has had options. Just missing them/throwing picks.

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Just now, lightsout said:

 

Murray has been hot this second half especially. Just fuging run it enough to keep the d honest. fuging pass happy league, they shoot themselves in the foot.

Cook had that fumble where the whistle should hand bedb blown so they sit him for 20 minutes. Then he started off hot in the second half too but then he and Allen miscommunicated on the handoff. 

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