A year to early, Tepp, Fitt, Reich

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Mage said:

IMO he is going to work out if he goes to a team with stability already in place.  Too good of a talent.  Let a guy like Sean McVay or KOC work with him with those receivers and boy oh boy.

Unfortunately for Caleb, those types of teams don't pick in the top 3.  I could be wrong here but he strikes me as someone that when the going gets tough, he's not going to rebound as well as others would/will.  Especially when it isn't just losing games but him not putting up the big numbers he's used to in college.

Yeah, you're going to a poo show as a top pick. Going to a team trading up from #9 to #1 is theoretically one of the best possible scenarios as a top pick. Oh well.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Mage said:

IMO he is going to work out if he goes to a team with stability already in place.  Too good of a talent.  Let a guy like Sean McVay or KOC work with him with those receivers and boy oh boy.

Unfortunately for Caleb, those types of teams don't pick in the top 3.  I could be wrong here but he strikes me as someone that when the going gets tough, he's not going to rebound as well as others would/will.  Especially when it isn't just losing games but him not putting up the big numbers he's used to in college.

He could conceivably wind up on a Jim Harbaugh coached Bears team.

That would likely be interesting.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

He could conceivably wind up on a Jim Harbaugh coached Bears team.

That would likely be interesting.

I can't wait for Harbaugh's reaction the first time Caleb goes crying to momma

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I can't wait for Harbaugh's reaction the first time Caleb goes crying to momma

Yeah, can't do that in the NFL. 

[WUnderhill]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's just comical at this point.

[Panthercougar68]

I will say this, I would have no issue taking a flyer on a QB in the draft because I’m not out on Bryce, but teams will trade for back up QBs in this day and age.

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

I'd give you props if that meme made any sense in this conversation. 

Here's how you utilize a meme relevant to a conversation

[methodtoll]

Don't we say this every year?? There will always be a prospect where you start asking yourself, "we should go after him" but then later it is, "We better wait till next year's draft because X Player looks a lot better" 

[Mr. Scot]

11 minutes ago, methodtoll said:

Don't we say this every year?? There will always be a prospect where you start asking yourself, "we should go after him" but then later it is, "We better wait till next year's draft because X Player looks a lot better" 

Pretty much, yeah.

[Johnstonny]

Long as tipper making the picks we gonna suck into perpetuity ... debate all you want on what if...

[tukafan21]

5 hours ago, Ornias said:

I have a feeling the next staff is going to take a flyer on one those that drop next year anyways. 

You can't take a flyer on a 2nd or 3rd round QB the year after we made a huge trade up to take a QB #1 overall, not with as many holes as we have right now and no first round pick.

Our 2nd round pick needs to be a week 1 starter while our 3rd needs to be at worst an impact player as a rookie, if not a starter.

But I'm 100% on board with taking one in 2025 with our Top 5 pick that year and then dump Bryce.  Which is also why you can't blow a pick on a QB in this year's draft, we need to add more talent to the roster for that QB we end up taking in the 2025 1st round.

If we can find a way to pick up an extra 4th or 5th, I wouldn't be against taking someone then and seeing if we hit on one, but not with our first two picks or even our own picks, we'd need to find a way to get an extra pick in that range.

Edited November 26, 2023 by tukafan21

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

You can't take a flyer on a 2nd or 3rd round QB the year after we made a huge trade up to take a QB #1 overall, not with as many holes as we have right now and no first round pick.

Our 2nd round pick needs to be a week 1 starter while our 3rd needs to be at worst an impact player as a rookie, if not a starter.

But I'm 100% on board with taking one in 2025 with our Top 5 pick that year and then dump Bryce.  Which is also why you can't blow a pick on a QB in this year's draft, we need to add more talent to the roster for that QB we end up taking in the 2025 1st round.

If we can find a way to pick up an extra 4th or 5th, I wouldn't be against taking someone then and seeing if we hit on one, but not with our first two picks or even our own picks, we'd need to find a way to get an extra pick in that range.

Yeah, I think Bryce is a bust at this point but given the investment you have to give him two years and put the best possible unit around him. If he's not significantly better next year, swing again in '25.

[catnip]

Would take a late round flyer on Sam Hartman from N Dame

[tukafan21]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I think Bryce is a bust at this point but given the investment you have to give him two years and put the best possible unit around him. If he's not significantly better next year, swing again in '25.

Oh Bryce is absolutely a bust, he's already proven that he's never going to be elite, even with a better team around him, league average QB is his absolute peak potential, and that's if EVERYTHING goes perfectly right for him the rest of his career, which let's be real, seems a low probability anyways.  And I don't even think it's about giving him a 2nd season given the investment, it's that there isn't a logical way we can replace him after this season with a long term option.

If we had our 1st rounder, I'm taking a new QB and shipping Bryce out for literally anything anyone would offer up for him, but we don't and you're not going to get a sure thing at QB in the 2nd or 3rd round, even in a good QB class.  

Honestly, if we had a better team, I'd be fine just benching him and going with Dalton or a FA at QB next year, but starting Bryce is our worst option, which in turn means it's our best chance at being in position to draft his replacement in 2025 by starting him and losing.