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Mr. Scot

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TLGPanthersFan Grand Master

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, sorry but that's a really optimistic way to look at things.

David Tepper has earned a terrible reputation around the league. Besides being known as a meddler and hard to work for, you've got the "weekly meetings" story that let everybody know what Reich was going through.

Anybody that has good opportunities elsewhere will probably explore them.

How do you know this. Are you an NFL insider or is it a feeling. 
I listen to a ton of sports shows and none have said Tepper has a terrible reputation. 

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Someone will be named the head coach, yes.

I have very little confidence right now that it will be "a pretty good name" unless David Tepper makes some very radical changes to how he operates.

Who would you be satisfied with as HC? I think you like Ben Johnson so you'd be good with that. I want to know off the cuff what other names you'd like (doesn't need to be a deep dive). Would just be curious to revisit in 10 weeks who ends up being named HC and if it's someone you'd like. 

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Someone will be named the head coach, yes.

I have very little confidence right now that it will be "a pretty good name" unless David Tepper makes some very radical changes to how he operates.

I don’t really care about names. The Reich firing last year and subsequent hiring this year were both talked about extensively. The media made fun of Irsay for weeks and said the Panthers had made a solid hire. Well you see how that turned out.

I guarantee you if we start winning games all the Tepper talk will go away and the meddling stuff will die down. Not that I don’t think he is a terrible owner because he is. However, I have a hard time believing that he’s out here acting as a de facto GM and telling Fitterer what free agents to sign and who to draft in the second round. Fitterer and the front office scouting staff has to go. If we get the right guy, regardless of whether he’s currently a hot name, the NFC south is a winnable division. 

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4 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

How do you know this. Are you an NFL insider or is it a feeling. 
I listen to a ton of sports shows and none have said Tepper has a terrible reputation. 

Multiple league insiders have reported it. Among them guys like Charles Robinson, Stephen Holder and others.

Reich's statement that he had weekly meetings with Tepper made a lot of waves.

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3 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

Who would you be satisfied with as HC? I think you like Ben Johnson so you'd be good with that. I want to know off the cuff what other names you'd like (doesn't need to be a deep dive). Would just be curious to revisit in 10 weeks who ends up being named HC and if it's someone you'd like. 

Frank Smith Is the first name that comes to mind. One of the advantages you have with him is that he's already worked with a smaller quarterback in Tua, so that could help him with Young.

If we're talking about GMs, the first guy Idy want to call Is Will McClay of the Cowboys. They've drafted consistently well under his watch.

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If Fittz is still here then it's not going to matter. It's just doubling down on past mistakes time.

Anyone that signs up for what is in store the rest of this season and next deserves what Frank got, a bag of cash and lots of reasons for other teams to not hire you. 

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28 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Multiple league insiders have reported it. Among them guys like Charles Robinson, Stephen Holder and others.

Reich's statement that he had weekly meetings with Tepper made a lot of waves.

Why do people make such big deals of the owner having weekly meetings? Would have thought that would be normal. I think even Richardson met with Rivera for meetings during the season. 

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Honestly, we need a Head Coach on the defense side of the equation. One who can pick a competent OC and QB coach, then stay out of their way. 

Our identity is a stout defense and a punishing running game. Get back to that and they can open up a world of opportunities for Young or whoever we install behind that dotted line we have.

 

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16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

From one of Joe Person's colleagues at The Athletic...

Throw in weekly meetings with a meddling owner.

Last year we approached it as we were a few moves away from contending. Surely the understanding this time around is we need a hard reset/rebuild, and whichever coach they choose will have a few seasons to demonstrate progress/growth. Does Tepper realize this? Who knows but nearly everyone in the fanabse is on the same page of thinking on this.

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