Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Bad news for an old friend


Mr. Scot
 Share

Recommended Posts

On 12/16/2023 at 8:11 PM, Gapanthersfan said:

Ron wouldn’t have pulled Rodney Pete until after the 3rd game, minimum. Smith would have done something to have ended up in Ron’s doghouse. With the 2003 completely stacked roster, he would have won 7 games and missed the playoffs. If he were to have made the superbowl, they would have lost by 3 scores, or more. 

Fox went toe to toe with prime Bellicheck and Brady in the superbowl… with Jake Delhomme (still doesn’t get cred for being absolutely clutch in big games when he was on)… and came back from a 10? Point deficit after halftime… took the lead, but then just fell short. 

That was the biggest game in franchise history, against the GOAT and Bellicheck in front of the world, and we almost won. During that era, nobody made a comeback against the Pats. 

I love Ron, but Fox has him beat. I’d love to have seen what Fox could have done during the Cam and Luke years.

Agree. You want to see why Fox is better than Rivera. Look at Super Bowl 38 vs 50. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, Monica said:

"🌟 Miraculous Testimony 🌟
Hey dear online fam! 🙌 I'm Monica from the vibrant city of New York 🗽 I want to share an unbelievable story with you all. Two years ago, my ex-husband and I went through a tough breakup. I felt empty and lost. But then, a close friend suggested I reach out to #PriestOguname, the deity of love and justice. 🕊️ I followed his advice, and within days, my husband called saying he wanted to come back to me! 😍 Now, brace yourselves for the exciting twist - I'm pregnant! 🤰 Thanks to #PriestOguname, my marriage is saved. 🌈 Interested? Contact him at [email protected] or visit priestoguname.webnode.com 🌟 #LoveAndMiracles #MarriageSaved #BlessedLife"

lucious lyon wtf GIF

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 12/16/2023 at 10:50 AM, LinvilleGorge said:

I think he had the best talent by far. Honestly, Fox did the better coaching job before he just mailed it in at the end on his blame duck year. There's zero chance Ron Rivera gets that '03 team anywhere close to a SB.

when fox was at his peak he was the best. 

i do think he got lazy with his coaching starting in 2007. melt down at end of 2008 was due to as much fox as it was jake. 

but yeah, i agree when fox came in he was far more aggressive and did much more with less. rivera got lucky with cam and luke.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, rayzor said:

when fox was at his peak he was the best. 

i do think he got lazy with his coaching starting in 2007. melt down at end of 2008 was due to as much fox as it was jake. 

but yeah, i agree when fox came in he was far more aggressive and did much more with less. rivera got lucky with cam and luke.

So many injuries in 2004. Steve Smith getting injuries in game 1 and it seemed like we had at least one bad injury every game that year. 
2004 team healthy was better than 2003 and I still think could of made it back to the Super Bowl. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I gauge a coach on how they do in the biggest games. 

2003 team trounced Dallas at home then went in to St Louis and beat the greatest show on turf in double OT,  then in to Philly and ran all over them, then went in to the SB, came back after half to a team nobody comes back against and almost wins the game… with Jake Delhomme at QB. To be fair that team was more loaded with talent and depth than people give credit for, and Peppers and Smith are locks for the HOF. Smith being the most clutch player the franchise has ever had. 

Fox wins SB 50 by 2 scores at least with the 2015 team. I’m not sure Ron would know what to do with Jake on the 2003 team.  Probably throttle it back and lean on Davis to win games. Ron loses in St Louis and Philly. He would never have been able to mount a comeback against that Pats team in the SB. Not that team. It’s probably not even close. 
 

All things equal, the 2015 team beats the brakes off the 2003 team if they play each other, so Ron had the better team, against a MUCH weaker opponent in his SB appearance, and couldn’t even make a game of it. 

All is obviously JMHO. 

Edited by Gapanthersfan
  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Would Morgan or Beason have been HOFers' if injuries hadn't derailed their careers?  I was not a close watcher of the game when Morgan was in his prime but I thought Beason had a few seasons at close to Lukes' level of play.
    • Franchise QBs feast when things are rolling and the tide that raises boats when things are going sideways.  Bryce isn't that. He's a complimentary player, that's it.  When the defense and STs are on point, he plays loose and it shows.  When we are in a dog fight and things haven't gone our way, he struggles.  It's that simple. He's not a horrible QB, but he's not top tier either.  So the question begs, is this worthy of a second contract?  The answer should be no.  It definitely is my answer. Bryce will never be a QB that can produce wins largely on his arm.  That's a FRANCHISE QB, any other QB is simply a placeholder at the starter's position until that guy can be found.   At some point the excuses of lack of weapons will be a straw man.  Heck, it's nearly there now.  I mean if he doesn't look even better than last year will we blame it on the TE position?  'Well if Bryce only had a player like Kelce, Kittle or Gronk on this team...'  Are we really going to do that?  
    • When I arrived at college, I was 18, not too much younger than some of these draft picks.  It was not a huge school, but there were guys on the team who were 21, 22, 23....playing ahead of me.  I was seventh on the depth chart.  Those guys have been through a few seasons, were stronger, more knowledgeable.  I was a better raw player than some of them, but those other factors matter.  As I grew stronger, more familiar with the playbook, and learned what it was like to play in college, I gradually improved and with that, I rose up the depth chart.  It took most of my freshman year for the light to come on.  Had the coach thrown me into the starting lineup day 1, I would have probably failed.    And that was college.  So I agree with you based on my experience on a much lower level.  Frankly, I think that is why so many kids drafted to fill huge gaps bust.  The teams are desperate.  Anyone who looks to fill vacancies in the starting lineup through the draft is desperate.  You draft depth to develop.  For this reason, I say, "Let Walker start for a while."  Maybe Brazzell can be our WR 4.  Throw Hunter into a rotation and ask him to do one or two things.  Freeling needs some strength and he needs to work on run blocking.
×
×
  • Create New...