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[KatsAzz]

Via SportsLine oddsmakers: Who will be the next Carolina Panthers full-time head coach?

• Ben Johnson +250
• Mike Macdonald +400
• Jim Harbaugh +500
• Eric Bieniemy +600
• Frank Smith +600
• Bobby Slowik +700
• Dan Quinn +900
• Jim Caldwell +1000
• Steve Wilks +1500
• Ejiro Evero +2000
• Thomas Bown +2000
• Sean McDermott +3000

[mav1234]

5 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

It makes sense to fire Fit next Monday, find his replacement and ride out year 2 of BY with the current coaches.  Let the new GM pick his new hc and qb if things go to poo next year.

So there is a strange alternative universe where if Everos defense shores back up and Bryce plays well in the last couple, this could be our best long term move. I personally would still rather Evero as HC but Tabor has been surprisingly good overall.  Love his sideline emotion.

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

So there is a strange alternative universe where if Everos defense shores back up and Bryce plays well in the last couple, this could be our best long term move. I personally would still rather Evero as HC but Tabor has been surprisingly good overall.  Love his sideline emotion.

I think Fitt is safe. Tepper continues to show he is always late with the very obvious.

I suspect Fitt gets fired towards the end of 2024 after another extremely and obviously terrible offseason.

[mav1234]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think Fitt is safe. Tepper continues to show he is always late with the very obvious.

I suspect Fitt gets fired towards the end of 2024 after another extremely and obviously terrible offseason.

I don't know how Fitt is safe, unless he is even more of a Tepper mouthpiece than we thought... How do you look at his trades, non-trades, & drafts and not kick him to the curb...?  Ugh, the Reich firing was the right move but still a  bit reactionary, while keeping Fitt is the total opposite. 

This offseason is pretty important because we are going to have holes everywhere and need some very good contract negotiations, need to get some decent value (depth is fine, just please be on the team in 2 years, UGH) with late picks for once...

If Fitterer IS kept, we absolutely can't have him picking the next HC...

Edited December 26, 2023 by mav1234

[kungfoodude]

Just now, mav1234 said:

I don't know how Fitt is safe, unless he is even more of a Tepper mouthpiece than we thought... How do you look at his trades, non-trades, & drafts and not kick him to the curb...?  Ugh, the Reich firing was the right move but still a  bit reactionary, while keeping Fitt is the total opposite. 

This offseason is pretty important because we are going to have holes everywhere and need some very good contract negotiations, need to get some decent value (depth is fine, just please be on the team in 2 years, UGH) with late picks for once...

He did the same with Hurney 2.0. He moved on from him a season after he should have. He just keeps doing things backwards. We'll hire a new HC this offseason and then try to find a GM to pair with him next offseason. 

It makes sense because it doesn't. That's the Tepper Panthers.

Almost every single franchise in the NFL would have already fired Fitterer by now. He probably wouldn't have lasted until this season, for that matter.

[mav1234]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

He did the same with Hurney 2.0. He moved on from him a season after he should have. He just keeps doing things backwards. We'll hire a new HC this offseason and then try to find a GM to pair with him next offseason. 

It makes sense because it doesn't. That's the Tepper Panthers.

Almost every single franchise in the NFL would have already fired Fitterer by now. He probably wouldn't have lasted until this season, for that matter.

it boggles the mind he still has a job. I just don't get it.  He has been SO bad.  I do think it is likely Tepper has had a hand in what trades did and didn't happen, and that's part of it, but still.

[thunderraiden]

23 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

Via SportsLine oddsmakers: Who will be the next Carolina Panthers full-time head coach?

• Ben Johnson +250
• Mike Macdonald +400
• Jim Harbaugh +500
• Eric Bieniemy +600
• Frank Smith +600
• Bobby Slowik +700
• Dan Quinn +900
• Jim Caldwell +1000
• Steve Wilks +1500
• Ejiro Evero +2000
• Thomas Bown +2000
• Sean McDermott +3000

Mike Macdonald +400

How am I just now hearing about this candidate? He honestly is probably just as good a bet as Ben Johnson if you look at his bio, he graduated Summa Cum Laude at UGA in Finance... Tepper is going to jizz his pants and create a thruple with him and Nicole. Honestly could be worst choices, that defense last night looked absolutely championship calibre. Will be interesting to watch.

Anyone know anything else about this guy?

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

it boggles the mind he still has a job. I just don't get it.  He has been SO bad.  I do think it is likely Tepper has had a hand in what trades did and didn't happen, and that's part of it, but still.

You know, I threw that at him with Rhule too but I think the more we look at everything, the majority of this crap has Fitt's fingerprints.

If nothing else, he has no blame but is a completely useless "yes" man to both Rhule and Tepper.

Fire him yesterday.

[The Lobo]

30 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He did the same with Hurney 2.0. He moved on from him a season after he should have. He just keeps doing things backwards. We'll hire a new HC this offseason and then try to find a GM to pair with him next offseason. 

It makes sense because it doesn't. That's the Tepper Panthers.

Almost every single franchise in the NFL would have already fired Fitterer by now. He probably wouldn't have lasted until this season, for that matter.

You are completely right, did the same with Rhule, should have fired him after his second season. The only hope we have is that he cut ties with Reich quickly, maybe he has learned? 

[Jmac]

Not gonna happen. New HC will want to pick his staff. He may retain a few if they did a good job.

First things first.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, The Lobo said:

You are completely right, did the same with Rhule, should have fired him after his second season. The only hope we have is that he cut ties with Reich quickly, maybe he has learned? 

I'll believe it when I see it. 

Seems to me the only thing he has been able to do is shift gears to being worse and worse.

Ron to Rhule to Frank. 

It is really going to have to take some poo for me to believe this time. This past offseason/season broke what remaining faith I had in him. He has to earn it back.

[The Lobo]

28 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I'll believe it when I see it. 

Seems to me the only thing he has been able to do is shift gears to being worse and worse.

Ron to Rhule to Frank. 

It is really going to have to take some poo for me to believe this time. This past offseason/season broke what remaining faith I had in him. He has to earn it back.

I understand completely, I have very little hope for this team right now. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, The Lobo said:

I understand completely, I have very little hope for this team right now. 

I finally understand all the Redskins fans. This is what that feels like.

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I think Fitt is safe. Tepper continues to show he is always late with the very obvious.

I suspect Fitt gets fired towards the end of 2024 after another extremely and obviously terrible offseason.

Our buddy Casillas had a really interesting notion on that front...

Back when Marty was still in charge (and there was no end in sight) many of us had this vain hope that he'd be "kicked upstairs" to a position where he retained administrative duties and general team management stuff but had no personnel authority.

Casillas suggested that could happen to Fitterer, and it makes some sense. He's said to be well liked within the organization (not just by Tepper) and reportedly pretty good at the  non-personnel related aspects of the GM job.

I disagree with going that route because I think with the reports of a toxic atmosphere inside the team's offices - not to mention stories that Fitterer himself might have helped undermine Frank Reich - there's just no way you can keep him around.

But looking at it from David Tepper's perspective, the idea might actually make some sense and could even potentially work If the toxic atmosphere stories are satisfactorily addressed.