Just when you thought it couldn't get worse, Fox, ESPN, and WB are launching a joint venture sports streaming service

[Ricky Prickles]

6 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

It's another service that fractures the market and forces people to pay for just a tiny amount of content they want to watch. Also, considering it's Disney and WB/Discovery behind this, it'll probably highly overpriced too.

No way Disney overprices anything! I mean look how cheap a drink and a pretzel is at one of their theme parks. You could easily obtain a drink and a pretzel for the bargain price of $80.00 I'm sure. Yeah I'm sure this new channel will suck donkey balls and just another example of NFL games slowly going here and there so before you know it we are paying six different damn services just to watch games when we always got games for free other than if you wanted NFL Sunday Ticket but like it or not we could always get our teams games when we were in market. Next I bet all that poo changes as well. Good post and very sad as well as eye opening.

[kungfoodude]

They are all trying to re-create the cable model and it will only work on a certain demographic. 

Young people aren’t going to easily be conned back into this. 

[Ricky Prickles]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

They are all trying to re-create the cable model and it will only work on a certain demographic. 

Young people aren’t going to easily be conned back into this. 

you're right that's really all it is. Just to morph themselves back into what essentially they came around because of. If you look at streaming services and how their prices have ballooned year after year it's proof that they are slowly just becoming cable all over again except you have a bunch of different companies doing it where we have choices but in the end it will all be just as expensive as cable. Hell it's getting closer and closer each year as each service sends out a memo that they are raising prices.

[Peon Awesome]

10 hours ago, PanthersATL said:

 

interesting that NBC and CBS didn’t participate.

Not too surprised. They've got a lot of money invested in their original content on their own platforms (Peacock and Paramount+). If anything, staying out of this strengthens those services. Many people who only have cable for sports may opt to cancel their cable and sign up for this, Peacock and Paramount+ to make sure they don't miss any big sporting events. Fox doesn't have a paid streaming service and this can't get off the ground without ESPN since they have over 50% of the sports market, so makes sense those 2 would partner up.

[PanthersATL]

41 minutes ago, Ricky Prickles said:

If you look at streaming services and how their prices have ballooned year after year .

Yes, prices have increased, but its in part due to the need to pay for content to put onto the service along with providing the infrastructure

The other piece is that streaming services see a lot of monthly churn in subscribers, with users signing in for a month or two to binge-watch, then dropping for a while and switching services. This leads to unpredictable revenue trendlines

Netflix is the only streamer making money, and they have the highest month-to-month subscriber percentage (ie less overall churn). Usage shows most streaming households have Netflix and one other streamer active for any given month. It's rare for any household to maintain active subs for peacock, Netflix, Paramount, Hulu at the same time.

If consumers subscribed to streaming services the same way they did to cable (via annual renewal contracts) there's a small chance that prices would not have increased as much.

[TheMaulClaw]

I haven't paid for any type of cable or internet tv service in several years.  You guys are behind on the times.  There is a way to cut the cord from the other cord that's been cut.  It's called a PC with a dope ass monitor.

[PanthersATL]

5 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

No way Disney overprices anything! 

just another example of NFL games slowly going here and there so before you know it we are paying six different damn services just to watch games .

Disney isn't setting the price by themselves. It's a tri-owned partnership with independent oversight. Pricing is expected to be high, however, as it will be competing with the coming ESPN direct to consumer product and is a niche audience.

(You can always bring your own food into a Disney park, but thats not todays topic)

Based on the PR, the content will not be exclusive to this service. NFL games will still be shown in local markets through traditional means. And all channels will still be covered via however you're getting them today. If you're already watching NBA on TBS, then this product isn't targeting you.

They're aiming for a sports fan who wants to watch these channels but doesn't have a way to do so via their current TV watching setup

[PanthersATL]

6 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

 Fox doesn't have a paid streaming service and this can't get off the ground without ESPN since they have over 50% of the sports market, so makes sense those 2 would partner up.

FOX paid streaming service is Hulu.

There's still an ESPN standalone product coming.

Combining forces for a sports-only add-on is smart. If it takes off, I could see Paramount and Peacock joining up since it's another Revenue stream for them and doesn't take away from their current subscriber base since the games would stream in both places

[45catfan]

11 minutes ago, TheMaulClaw said:

I haven't paid for any type of cable or internet tv service in several years.  You guys are behind on the times.  There is a way to cut the cord from the other cord that's been cut.  It's called a PC with a dope ass monitor.

I can imagine telling the wife she has to watch her favorite shows on the PC.   Hey, at least I might be a single man again.

[PanthersATL]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

They are all trying to re-create the cable model and it will only work on a certain demographic. 

Young people aren’t going to easily be conned back into this. 

In this case, It's not so much trying to recreate the cable model as it is providing specific content to a targeted audience.

The PR reads that subscribers are not getting the full TBS lineup, just the NBA games. TBD: It may not even be the full ESPN schedule of shows... but only the aired sporting events from Pickleball Slam to NCAA softball to the little league world series to MNF. 

There's a high chance more streamer collaborations will happen to compete with YouTubeTV (like you said, the cable model). Local channels might be left out of the mix, but local news already have ways of streaming their product anyway

[Ricky Prickles]

48 minutes ago, PanthersATL said:

Yes, prices have increased, but its in part due to the need to pay for content to put onto the service along with providing the infrastructure

The other piece is that streaming services see a lot of monthly churn in subscribers, with users signing in for a month or two to binge-watch, then dropping for a while and switching services. This leads to unpredictable revenue trendlines

Netflix is the only streamer making money, and they have the highest month-to-month subscriber percentage (ie less overall churn). Usage shows most streaming households have Netflix and one other streamer active for any given month. It's rare for any household to maintain active subs for peacock, Netflix, Paramount, Hulu at the same time.

If consumers subscribed to streaming services the same way they did to cable (via annual renewal contracts) there's a small chance that prices would not have increased as much.

That makes sense they way you just explained to me, I appreciate it. I guess I hadn't thought about it that way but you are very correct!

[kungfoodude]

53 minutes ago, PanthersATL said:

In this case, It's not so much trying to recreate the cable model as it is providing specific content to a targeted audience.

The PR reads that subscribers are not getting the full TBS lineup, just the NBA games. TBD: It may not even be the full ESPN schedule of shows... but only the aired sporting events from Pickleball Slam to NCAA softball to the little league world series to MNF. 

There's a high chance more streamer collaborations will happen to compete with YouTubeTV (like you said, the cable model). Local channels might be left out of the mix, but local news already have ways of streaming their product anyway

It's just floundering around to try and keep a crumbling infrastructure in place.

The truth is that their business model is broken and they just haven't accepted it yet.

[Tbe]

1 hour ago, TheMaulClaw said:

I haven't paid for any type of cable or internet tv service in several years.  You guys are behind on the times.  There is a way to cut the cord from the other cord that's been cut.  It's called a PC with a dope ass monitor.

Piracy hurts everyone long term.

[Shocker]

12 hours ago, PanthersATL said:

Expect commercials with live sports regardless. Can’t fast forward through timeouts or tennis breaks between sets

I know that but you are obviously not paying attention to the amount of commercials Max and Hulu are including now.  My point is that this will clearly get worse