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32 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Am I the only one that can't believe JJ McCarthy is being sold as a high end QB prospect?  I watched a fair amount of his Michigan games, and I did not see a pro QB.

I haven’t looked into McCarthy at all since we’re not likely taking a QB this year but I look at any QB coached by Harbaugh with a very critical eye. He’s like Reid in his ability to squeeze the most out of mediocre QBs (Reid’s work before Mahommes in KC and Philly was pure sorcery)

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2 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I haven’t looked into McCarthy at all since we’re not likely taking a QB this year but I look at any QB coached by Harbaugh with a very critical eye. He’s like Reid in his ability to squeeze the most out of mediocre QBs (Reid’s work before Mahommes in KC and Philly was pure sorcery)

Andy Reid squeezing the most out of former #1 and #2 overall draft picks.  

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

Andy Reid squeezing the most out of former #1 and #2 overall draft picks.  

#1 and 2 draft picks who weren’t very good outside of their association with Reid. News flash, draft position isn’t a sure fire indicator of talent (shouldn’t have to tell that to a Panthers fan in 2024…)

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3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Not doubting you at all but is there an example?  Because if thats an option I am all for it, I just dont remember any time that has happened

 

1 hour ago, JawnyBlaze said:

The last time I could find was 2009 the broncos traded their 2010 first for the Seahawks’ #37. It’s such a specific condition it wasnt easy to search for, but that’s the last one I found. Seahawks turned that first into Earl Thomas the next year. 

I mean that's exactly what we did with Everette Brown lol I know it's easy to psychologically repress that traumatic memory as Panthers fans.  That wasn't even a particularly high 2nd round pick either (43rd pick), which makes it even sadder.

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1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Am I the only one that can't believe JJ McCarthy is being sold as a high end QB prospect?  I watched a fair amount of his Michigan games, and I did not see a pro QB.

I don't get it either, his legs are intriguing though. Honestly reminds me of Kapernick in some ways where he can be a dynamic runner but limited passer.

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10 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

 

I mean that's exactly what we did with Everette Brown lol I know it's easy to psychologically repress that traumatic memory as Panthers fans.  That wasn't even a particularly high 2nd round pick either (43rd pick), which makes it even sadder.

lol you’re right. I knew we had done it at some point but couldn’t remember the exact case. 🤮 I suppressed that memory even though I actually own an Everette brown jersey lol. Swore that would be the last rookie’s jersey I ever bought. 

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11 hours ago, Buckeye Homer said:

PFF put out a 3-round mock today. They have Carolina taking Chop Robinson, Xavier Legette, and JaTavion Sanders.  

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Three-Round 2024 NFL Mock Draft: Vikings trade up for QB J.J. McCarthy

 

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Posted Mar 18, 2024 9:02 am EDT

 

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• Vikings make a splash with extra first-round ammo: After securing the Texans' No. 12 overall pick, Minnesota moves up even further to draft Michigan quarterback J.J. McCarthy.

• Seven quarterbacks come off the board through three rounds: Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels and J.J. McCarthy kick things off with the first four picks.

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Post-free agency NFL mock drafts hold a special place in my heart, as there is no more speculation about how team needs might change.

With every team having made moves that will surely impact their draft strategies, here is a three-round 2024 mock draft that includes trades for both future draft picks and current players.

1. CHICAGO BEARS: QB CALEB WILLIAMS, USC

Williams was always the choice, and now that Justin Fields is a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers, we can write this one in pen.


2. WASHINGTON COMMANDERS: QB DRAKE MAYE, NORTH CAROLINA

The great QB2 debate rages on, and reports indicate plenty of teams are split between Maye, J.J. McCarthy and Jayden Daniels. Ultimately, Maye is the better quarterback prospect, so until I'm confidently convinced otherwise, he is the No. 2 pick.

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3. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS: QB JAYDEN DANIELS, LSU

New Patriots head coach Jerod Mayo had this to say about draft strategy when speaking with CBS News Boston in mid-January: “What I will say is this: We’re gonna draft the best player for a position that is very important. You put the pieces together.”

For him to say that at that time means the Patriots were confident in not only Caleb Williams but also Drake Maye and Jayden Daniels to be franchise quarterbacks. Mayo likely doesn't express that thought if New England isn't planning on taking whichever quarterback is left on the board, even if it's the QB3 of that group.


4. **TRADE** MINNESOTA VIKINGS: QB J.J. MCCARTHY, MICHIGAN

Vikings receive Pick No. 4 and a 2025 fifth-round pick; Cardinals receive Pick Nos. 11, 23 and a 2025 third-round pick

The Vikings didn’t trade for the Texans' No. 23 overall pick just to hear Roger Goodell say their name twice on Day 1. They’re eyeing a trade-up for their quarterback of the future and can now give a team picking in the top five an enticing deal. I ultimately think that is with the Arizona Cardinals. In doing so, Minnesota pairs the budding McCarthy with Kevin O’Connell, and McCarthy is put in a comfortable situation to not start right away with Sam Darnold also in the mix.


5. LOS ANGELES CHARGERS: WR MARVIN HARRISON JR., OHIO STATE

The Chargers would likely love to move back, potentially entertaining a Vikings offer of two first-round picks if it came to that. But if Minnesota trades up to No. 4, Los Angeles may not want to pass on Harrison after moving on from wide receivers Mike Williams and Keenan Allen in free agency.

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6. NEW YORK GIANTS: WR ROME ODUNZE, WASHINGTON

The Giants will be in the trade-up market for a quarterback, but if they stick at No. 6, I think it’s a receiver over an offensive lineman since they brought in a few veterans in free agency to give them good flexibility at tackle and guard. From what I have heard, Odunze has been acing interviews on top of his excellent NFL scouting combine performance. His size would add something new to the Giants' starting receiver lineup.


7. TENNESSEE TITANS: T JOE ALT, NOTRE DAME

After listening to Titans head coach Brian Callahan and general manager Ran Carthon talk at the NFL scouting combine about their desire to improve team speed this offseason, I thought this pick could be one of the top receivers. But all the money they gave to Calvin Ridley — in addition to already rostering DeAndre Hopkins and Treylon Burks  brings me back to the offensive line. Tennessee targets OT1 here and forms one heck of a left side of the line with Alt and Skoronski, along with the newly signed Lloyd Cushenberry III at center.


8. ATLANTA FALCONS: EDGE DALLAS TURNER, ALABAMA

The Falcons hit the free agency quarterback prize of Kirk Cousins, so there is no threat of them selecting a quarterback in the first round. And after a few wide receiver additions in free agency, as well, look for them to eye the defensive line, specifically the hyper-athletic edge rusher Dallas Turner.


9. CHICAGO BEARS: WR MALIK NABERS, LSU

“You’re telling me Caleb WIlliams is going to get to throw to D.J. Moore, Keenan Allen and Malik Nabers?”

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m telling you.


10. NEW YORK JETS: OL TROY FAUTANU, WASHINGTON

The Tyron Smith signing does not change my opinion that the best pick for the Jets at No. 10 is Troy Fautanu. Fautanu is a versatile offensive lineman who can start at both guard and tackle in the NFL. That flexibility will be important, with two older offensive tackles set to start for the team in 2024. Fautanu could even get reps at left guard, and if anything happens to Smith, he can kick out to tackle and the newly signed John Simpson can step in. Investing in that offensive line depth is better than drafting tight end Brock Bowers.

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11. **TRADE** ARIZONA CARDINALS: CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO

Cardinals receive Pick Nos. 11, 23 and a 2025 third-round pick; Vikings receive Pick Nos. 4 and a 2025 fifth-round pick

The Cardinals took a nice deal to move down from No. 4 to No. 11 in this mock draft and, in doing so, grab themselves a CB1. They signed Sean Murphy-Bunting to a three-year deal, but that shouldn’t stop them from drafting a player of Mitchell’s caliber. He posted elite coverage grades in each of the past two seasons.


12. **TRADE** PHILADELPHIA EAGLES: T TALIESE FUAGA, OREGON STATE

Broncos receive Pick Nos. 22 and 53; Eagles receive Pick No. 12 and a 2025 third-round pick

Look, you can’t tell me Howie Roseman doing something like this is too crazy to predict. With no second-round pick, the Broncos could aim to move back from No. 12 if they can’t trade up for a quarterback. The Eagles have an extra second-round pick, which could make this a deal. In doing so, Philadelphia — which has always looked ahead when it comes to building in the trenches — could draft a player like Fuaga, who could start at guard early on and then kick out to right tackle when Lane Johnson retires.


13. LAS VEGAS RAIDERS: CB TERRION ARNOLD, ALABAMA

The Raiders should be aggressive in trading up for a quarterback, but with no deal done here, they attack a major area of need by selecting a potential CB1 in Arnold.

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14. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: T OLU FASHANU, PENN STATE

Fashanu brings some concerns about how he deals with power, but he’s a fantastic athlete and a great pass protector who can still develop that power as a young player. The Saints can’t just roll into next season under the assumption that Trevor Penning will get substantially better.


15. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS: TE BROCK BOWERS, GEORGIA

This is a common mock draft choice, but it’s an easy one to make if Bowers falls this far — which I believe is realistic. Bowers could be in for plenty of early targets from quarterback Anthony Richardson.

If not Bowers, one of the top cornerbacks could be in the mix here.


16. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS: IOL JACKSON POWERS-JOHNSON, OREGON

The Seahawks would love to get Troy Fautanu here, but with him off the board, they opt for another interior offensive lineman who can play guard and center — and one who dominated at both spots at the Senior Bowl.


17. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: WR AD MITCHELL, TEXAS

Letting Calvin Ridley head to a division rival was a major fumble by the Jaguars. They signed Gabe Davis, but he struggled last season as a WR2. Mitchell is the kind of elite athlete that general manager Trent Baalke tends to gravitate toward.


18. CINCINNATI BENGALS: T JC LATHAM, ALABAMA

The Bengals have two major trench needs: replacing D.J. Reader on defense and replacing Jonah Williams on offense. Here, they address the offensive tackle need, as it is harder to hit on those players outside of the first round. Latham is a natural fit, playing at Alabama as a starting right tackle, where Cincinnati has a void.

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19. LOS ANGELES RAMS: DI JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS

Aaron Donald‘s retirement is disappointing for the Rams, but alas, he has chosen to ride off into the football sunset on the road to the Hall of Fame. The Rams know how important top-notch interior play is. That’s why I see Newton as being high on their board. He earned elite cumulative PFF grades in both pass rush and run defense over the past two seasons.


20. PITTSBURGH STEELERS: CB COOPER DEJEAN, IOWA

An offensive lineman could also be high on the Steelers’ board for the first round — interior offensive line and perhaps offensive tackle — but DeJean fills a major roster hole with a player Pittsburgh will love due to his versatility and physicality.


21. MIAMI DOLPHINS: DI BYRON MURPHY II, TEXAS

Miami lost Christian Wilkins in free agency and could need to replace that juice on the interior. Murphy is an incredibly talented and athletic three-technique defensive tackle who can quickly get off the ball as a pass rusher and hold the line well for a guy of his size.


22. **TRADE** DENVER BRONCOS: QB BO NIX, OREGON

Broncos receive Pick Nos. 22 and 50; Eagles receive Pick Nos. 12 and a 2025 third-round pick

The Broncos would likely love to come out of the first round with a quarterback. Getting into the top five this year would be difficult for them with no second-round pick to offer, so instead I have them trading back, getting an extra second-round pick and still drafting a quarterback they can build around. I like the idea of Nix, one of the most cerebral passers in the country, getting to work with Sean Payton, who orchestrated plenty of methodical offenses with Drew Brees in New Orleans.


23. **TRADE** ARIZONA CARDINALS: EDGE LAIATU LATU, UCLA

Cardinals receive Pick Nos. 11, 23 and a 2025 third-round pick; Vikings receive Pick No. 4 and a 2025 fifth-round pick

The Cardinals' second first-round pick is a pass rusher — the best one in college football over the past two years, to be exact. Latu isn’t the most athletic edge rusher in this class, but his production would be tough to pass up for Jonathan Gannon's 3-4 defensive front.

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24. DALLAS COWBOYS: IOL GRAHAM BARTON, DUKE

After losing Tyron Smith and Tyler Biadasz to free agency, the Dallas Cowboys will need to shuffle their offensive line. As a player who can play all five spots on the line, Barton would be an excellent choice for Dallas to build its “best five” for 2024 and beyond.


25. GREEN BAY PACKERS: S TYLER NUBIN, MINNESOTA

Even after signing Xavier McKinney in free agency, the Packers could still use another high-impact safety. The more I thought about it, the more I loved the idea of filling the back end of this defense with playmakers. Nubin is experienced, productive and talented. He is worthy of a first-round pick.


26. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS: EDGE JARED VERSE, FLORIDA STATE

There aren’t many better scenarios for the Buccaneers than somehow coming away with Jared Verse at Pick 26. The Florida State product is talented enough to go much higher than this, but after free agency, I can now see him and Laiatu Latu falling a bit. That doesn’t make them any worse as players, though. Verse would be an immediate starter in Tampa Bay.

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27. ARIZONA CARDINALS: DI BRADEN FISKE, FLORIDA STATE

Fiske was the talk of the town at the scouting combine, leading all defensive tackles in the 40-yard dash, vertical jump and broad jump. His tape shows a player who wins off speed and one-gap pressure as a pass-rusher. After free agency, the Cardinals have some size on the interior. Now, they need some speed.


28. BUFFALO BILLS: WR BRIAN THOMAS JR., LSU

This is a very common pairing, but after moving on from Gabe Davis, the Bills need a consistent field-stretcher. Thomas ran a 4.33-second 40-yard dash at 209 pounds — so, yeah, he’ll do.


29. DETROIT LIONS: OL JORDAN MORGAN, ARIZONA

After losing Jonah Jackson in free agency, the Lions could need a starter along their interior offensive line. Morgan played tackle at Arizona, but his best position in the league is likely at guard. Most importantly for this pairing, he’s a tough player who came back from a torn ACL very quickly to get back on the field and compete last season.


30. BALTIMORE RAVENS: WR XAVIER WORTHY, TEXAS

Mr. 4.21” likely booked a ticket to the first round with his record-breaking 40-yard dash at the scouting combine. I could see the Ravens as a potential landing spot. Getting that constant deep threat on the field would open things up for Zay Flowers and Mark Andrews underneath.

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31. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS: T AMARIUS MIMS, GEORGIA

Mims has one of the craziest builds you will have ever seen — in a good way — at 6-foot-8 and 340 pounds. His talent and potential are too good to escape the first round. He also played right tackle in college, which aligns with a potential starting spot for the Niners.


32. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: T TYLER GUYTON, OKLAHOMA

The Chiefs will have plenty of options at the back end of the first round, but if Guyton is available, I like the idea of drafting him to develop him as a good depth player if they need him and a potential starter in 2025 and beyond. Guyton is a smooth mover and a very competitive player but needs time to become a more fundamentally sound blocker.


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SECOND ROUND

33. CAROLINA PANTHERS: EDGE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE

34. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS: WR LADD MCCONKEY, GEORGIA

35. ARIZONA CARDINALS: WR RICKY PEARSALL, FLORIDA

36. WASHINGTON COMMANDERS: T KINGSLEY SUAMATAIA, BYU

37. **TRADE** ATLANTA FALCONS: CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON

Falcons receive Pick Nos. 37 and 140; Chargers receive Pick Nos. 43 and 109

38. TENNESSEE TITANS: CB KOOL-AID MCKINSTRY, ALABAMA

39. CAROLINA PANTHERS: WR XAVIER LEGETTE, SOUTH CAROLINA

40. WASHINGTON COMMANDERS: EDGE CHRIS BRASWELL, ALABAMA

41. GREEN BAY PACKERS: LB PAYTON WILSON, NC STATE

42. HOUSTON TEXANS: CB T.J. TAMPA, IOWA STATE

43. **TRADE** LOS ANGELES CHARGERS: CB MIKE SAINRISTIL, MICHIGAN

Chargers receive Pick Nos. 43 and 109; Falcons receive Pick Nos. 37 and 140

44. LAS VEGAS RAIDERS: QB MICHAEL PENIX JR. WASHINGTON

45. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: EDGE DARIUS ROBINSON, MISSOURI

46. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS: CB KAMARI LASSITER, GEORGIA

47. NEW YORK GIANTS: DI T’VONDRE SWEAT, TEXAS

48. **TRADE** KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: WR TROY FRANKLIN, OREGON

Chiefs receive Pick No. 48; Jaguars receive CB L’Jarius Sneed

49. CINCINNATI BENGALS: DI KRIS JENKINS JR., MICHIGAN

50. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES: WR JA’LYNN POLK, WASHINGTON

51. PITTSBURGH STEELERS: C ZACH FRAZIER: WEST VIRGINIA

52. LOS ANGELES RAMS: DI RUKE ORHORHORO, CLEMSON

53. **TRADE** DENVER BRONCOS: EDGE MARSHAWN KNEELAND, WESTERN MICHIGAN

Broncos receive Pick Nos. 22 and 53; Eagles receive Pick No. 12 and a 2025 third-round pick

54. CLEVELAND BROWNS: WR ROMAN WILSON, MICHIGAN

55. MIAMI DOLPHINS: IOL CHRISTIAN HAYNES, UCONN

56. DALLAS COWBOYS: RB JONATHON BROOKS, TEXAS

57. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS: CB ENNIS RAKESTRAW JR., MISSOURI

58. GREEN BAY PACKERS: DI BRANDON DORLUS, OREGON

59. HOUSTON TEXANS: WR KEON COLEMAN, FLORIDA STATE

60. BUFFALO BILLS: CB MAX MELTON, RUTGERS

61. DETROIT LIONS: EDGE JONAH ELLISS, UTAH

62. BALTIMORE RAVENS: T KIRAN AMEGADJIE, YALE

63. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS: WR JAVON BAKER, UCF

64. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: CB ANDRU PHILLIPS, KENTUCKY


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THIRD ROUND

65. CAROLINA PANTHERS: TE JA’TAVION SANDERS, TEXAS

66. ARIZONA CARDINALS: LB JUNIOR COLSON, MICHIGAN

67. WASHINGTON COMMANDERS: WR JOHNNY WILSON, FLORIDA STATE

68. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS: OL DOMINICK PUNI, KANSAS

69. LOS ANGELES CHARGERS: LB EDGERRIN COOPER, TEXAS A&M

70. NEW YORK GIANTS: S JAVON BULLARD, GEORGIA

71. ARIZONA CARDINALS: IOL MASON MCCORMICK, SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

72. NEW YORK JETS: WR MALACHI CORLEY, WESTERN KENTUCKY

73. DETROIT LIONS: ED ADISA ISAAC, PENN STATE

74. ATLANTA FALCONS: S JADEN HICKS, WASHINGTON STATE

75. CHICAGO BEARS: C SEDRICK VAN PRAN, GEORGIA

76. DENVER BRONCOS: CB KHYREE JACKSON, OREGON

77. LAS VEGAS RAIDERS: WR JALEN MCMILLAN, WASHINGTON

78. WASHINGTON COMMANDERS: EDGE AUSTIN BOOKER, KANSAS

79. ATLANTA FALCONS: QB SPENCER RATTLER, SOUTH CAROLINA

80. CINCINNATI BENGALS: WR TEZ WALKER, NORTH CAROLINA

81. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS: LB JEREMIAH TROTTER JR., CLEMSON

82. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS: WR BRENDEN RICE, USC

83. LOS ANGELES RAMS: CB KRIS ABRAMS-DRAINE, MISSOURI

84. PITTSBURGH STEELERS: WR JERMAINE BURTON, ALABAMA

85. CLEVELAND BROWNS: LB CEDRIC GRAY, NORTH CAROLINA

86. HOUSTON TEXANS: IOL COOPER BEEBE, KANSAS STATE

87. DALLAS COWBOYS: WR AINIAS SMITH, TEXAS A&M

88. GREEN BAY PACKERS: EDGE BRALEN TRICE, WASHINGTON

89. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS: G CHRISTIAN MAHOGANY, BOSTON COLLEGE

90. ARIZONA CARDINALS: S KAMREN KINCHENS, MIAMI

91. GREEN BAY PACKERS: T BLAKE FISHER, NOTRE DAME

92. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS: RB BLAKE CORUM, MICHIGAN

93. BALTIMORE RAVENS: CB RENARDO GREEN, FLORIDA STATE

94. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS: CB TYKEE SMITH, GEORGIA

95. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: RB TREY BENSON, FLORIDA STATE

96. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: T PATRICK PAUL, HOUSTON

97. CINCINNATI BENGALS: TE ERICK ALL, IOWA

98. PITTSBURGH STEELERS: CB JARRIAN JONES, FLORIDA STATE

99. LOS ANGELES RAMS: LB TOMMY EICHENBERG, OHIO STATE

100. WASHINGTON COMMANDERS: S CALEN BULLOCK, USC

 

I would be happy with this draft.  Please don't copy/paste whole articles, the link is fine

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2 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

 

I mean that's exactly what we did with Everette Brown lol I know it's easy to psychologically repress that traumatic memory as Panthers fans.  That wasn't even a particularly high 2nd round pick either (43rd pick), which makes it even sadder.

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17 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I would be happy with this draft.  Please don't copy/paste whole articles, the link is fine

If both McConkey and Robinson are still on the board at 33, I would be hard pressed to pass on McConkey.  Both positions are needs but McConkey seems a very polished route runner and adept at separation, something I have heard mentioned in a positive light lately…

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8 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

If both McConkey and Robinson are still on the board at 33, I would be hard pressed to pass on McConkey.  Both positions are needs but McConkey seems a very polished route runner and adept at separation, something I have heard mentioned in a positive light lately…

Im taking Robinson in this scenario and taking a receiver with the next pick

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Trade back and acquire more mid rounders.  Good GM's can recognize talent in the mid rounds.  If we have a good GM we can do this.  Here is how I would play it.  Worked out almost perfectly.  I was targeting Fraizer out of West Virginia, but I was happy with my results.....

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    • I went to Canes games back in '04 & '05 when you were probably still a swimmer waiting to make your dad a father. There was no one there bc they sucked. Some of the lowest attendance in the NHL. As a Panthers fan coming off a SB season (03-04), I couldn't even believe they put a hockey team in Raleigh, and given the attendance, a lot of people speculated they would be relocated somewhere back up north where they would be supported and not "Mayberry." Seriously, educate youself.  That is reality. That being said, comparing that environment to 2024 Canes would be disingenuous. I was at PNC last year and know how great the current environment is. Comparing the current environment at BOA to 10 years ago is just as disingenuous.  Just bc you didn't witness how good BOA is when the Panthers are actually decent doesn't change reality. Seriously, surely you see that coming from such an elitist environment like the globally renowned world-class city of Raleigh, NC... I guarantee you if you went to a Canes game and a Panthers game in 2005, the difference would be unreal bc the Panthers were awesome and the Canes were (at the time) a moribund franchise. I have been in BOA when the whole stadium was rocking. You simply are young, don't know what you're talking about, but want to portray yourself as having knowledge about things you simply don't. You have a lot in common with modern day politicians and televangelists Like I said, Idiocracy has prevailed... Have a great day too! 
    • Let it all out bro.   At the end of the day Charlotte fans just aren't that passionate as other fans. The Panthers and Hornets crowds are wack.    Go to a Canes game and you will understand this. Tell the family I said hi and Happy Father's Day.
    • Dude you have no idea what you're talking about. Best place to live?  LMAO... that's your criteria...  Charlotte gets put all over those lists too... come on man... and those lists have zero to do with sports. I'm done after this bc I'm punching down intellectually here... The Panthers have been bad for 6 years now. You are obviously young and not overly educated based off the "dunks" you're putting out there that certainly are, so let me educate you today on the Panthers. The Panthers sold out for well over a decade straight. BOA has been as good an environment as there is when the team is good.  Fan support for the Panthers has been incredible when the team has even remotely reciprocated. The idea that Charlotte doesn't support the Panthers is utter BS. People in Raleigh have the biggest little brother syndrome of all time... Nobody outside of the Triangle cares about any of your "vaunted" sports team outside of Duke-UNC in basketball on a national scale. Sure, the Canes are great. But nationally, the WWE dwarfs the NHL in ratings. More people care about Cody Rhodes than Sebastian Aho... or anyone else in the NHL for that matter... I doubt less than 5% of anyone in this state outside of Raleigh even knows who that is... that's a knock on Aho who is a great player, it's just the NHL barely makes a ripple in the overall hierarchy of American sports. It's not in the same universe as the NFL or NBA no matter how badly you want to tell yourself otherwise. Raleigh is not a big-time sports city, no matter how much you want to scream into the abyss about it. Neither is Charlotte. But no one here is making such a nonsense argument... LOL it's good to be young and to be ignorant enough to be confidently wrong... WTF are you even on this board though since Charlotte is so beneath you? There is an actual discussion board on this very site for Raleigh sports since they are so superior...  Maybe it's bc I'm watching Idiocracy with my son, but your timing is perfect, my man... The dumbest among us have become the most confidence in their ignorance... God Bless America!!
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