Canales on fixing Bryce's footwork

[strato]

23 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

True Bryce Young highlights there. 

You can focus on the OL or a drop or what you perceive to be no separation, but what hits me first is the lackadaisical totally no urgency drop back posture. It’s freaking horrible. 

I am gonna need Frank to speak before any sense can be made of it. What I saw was a totally beaten man who wasn’t trying to win football games.

I think what beat him was the task of fixing that horrible draft pick. He wanted to bench him. That is what Seattle was. 

Just seems like arguing with whichever fresh Bryce stan that is inspired to do battle on his behalf, using the same arguments that have rebutted, I have been down that road. I appreciate you guys trying to explain it to people who won’t have any of it and won’t even look at what you are saying.

There is so much denial being thrown around, all of this Bryce “YES HE IS TOO!!!!! indignation, but it doesn’t change what is and what is not.

Far as Canales, he has to do his due diligence. As a coach. As the leader of the team. It is the right thing to do it is the safe thing for his job in any season. And I hope at some point the idea of competition and the best player for the job, work their way back into the culture over there. It is gone from the building regarding the QB position. Sadly.

But for now he has 2.7 and two big ass guards. And a QB with a noodle and the worst footwork I have ever seen. And he has to make an offense out of it. 

1st thing is get the throwing motion defined. He knows better than to try and reprogram that footwork. Too big a job, and would fail. Never been done on that level. I mean, have you looked at it?

It will be done by demanding results along a timeline. On this spot at this time. Ball out by this time. How he gets there really won’t matter. If he can’t do it, maybe Canales gets a chance to work with a player who is capable. And we aren’t held hostage by this ... whatever he is. 

 

 

I still; want to know the same things I did before the picked him: how will he do when he doesn’t get a runway to launch his deep ball? Show me he can do that. If you cannot, you are Super Limited. Period. 

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, strato said:

True Bryce Young highlights there. 

You can focus on the OL or a drop or what you perceive to be no separation, but what hits me first is the lackadaisical totally no urgency drop back posture. It’s freaking horrible. 

I am gonna need Frank to speak before any sense can be made of it. What I saw was a totally beaten man who wasn’t trying to win football games.

I think what beat him was the task of fixing that horrible draft pick. He wanted to bench him. That is what Seattle was. 

Just seems like arguing with whichever fresh Bryce stan that is inspired to do battle on his behalf, using the same arguments that have rebutted, I have been down that road. I appreciate you guys trying to explain it to people who won’t have any of it and won’t even look at what you are saying.

There is so much denial being thrown around, all of this Bryce “YES HE IS TOO!!!!! indignation, but it doesn’t change what is and what is not.

Far as Canales, he has to do his due diligence. As a coach. As the leader of the team. It is the right thing to do it is the safe thing for his job in any season. And I hope at some point the idea of competition and the best player for the job, work their way back into the culture over there. It is gone from the building regarding the QB position. Sadly.

But for now he has 2.7 and two big ass guards. And a QB with a noodle and the worst footwork I have ever seen. And he has to make an offense out of it. 

1st thing is get the throwing motion defined. He knows better than to try and reprogram that footwork. Too big a job, and would fail. Never been done on that level. I mean, have you looked at it?

It will be done by demanding results along a timeline. On this spot at this time. Ball out by this time. How he gets there really won’t matter. If he can’t do it, maybe Canales gets a chance to work with a player who is capable. And we aren’t held hostage by this ... whatever he is. 

 

 

I still; want to know the same things I did before the picked him: how will he do when he doesn’t get a runway to launch his deep ball? Show me he can do that. If you cannot, you are Super Limited. Period. 

Tepper and Fitterer needed Bryce to be the pick and they need him to start week 1.   That's the world Frank Reich found himself in.   And he looked mentally broken once that was set in stone. 

[KSpan]

I get where he's coming from and it sure sounds nice, but refreshing on the mechanics is different than having to tear down such ingrained habits. I bet that Bryce is always working on it and maybe we see a positive change this season.

[Shotgun]

4 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Here we go with the "hot takes" again. True - Bryce doesn't have an elite arm, but he DOES have a good arm. More than adequate for the NFL.   

Why does Dalton have to come in for hail marys?  Can you name any other nfl starting qb that gets taken out for hail marys? 

[Ghostofdelhomme]

Evangelical Christian coaches still command the locker rooms these days? ChristReich and now ChristCanales. I thought The 80s and ChristGibbs was their decade of effectiveness

[Shotgun]

2 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

  But there are also those that use the argument simply because they don't like the QB for whatever reason.

The reason would be that they lose all the time.

[rayzor]

29 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Because we gave up a poo load to get him and our crack front office said he was the most pro ready qb since luck or some such and to add insult to injury Stroud has absolutely flawless mechanics

We know that. That's history now. Why hang onto it? It does absolutely no good to dwell on that poo. The question is, what do we do to make it better aside from replacing Young? Because that ain't happening for a while.

He's got work to do. It doesn't matter anymore that he shouldn't, he just does... again, hat like every other QB. Dies he have more to work on? It doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't do any good to be thinking about what could have been done differently or better.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, rayzor said:

We know that. That's history now. Why hang onto it? It does absolutely no good to dwell on that poo. The question is, what do we do to make it better aside from replacing Young? Because that ain't happening for a while.

He's got work to do. It doesn't matter anymore that he shouldn't, he just does... again, hat like every other QB. Dies he have more to work on? It doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't do any good to be thinking about what could have been done differently or better.

I get that but was responding to you saying what qb doesn't have to work form?

[rayzor]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I get that but was responding to you saying what qb doesn't have to work form?

Every QB has stuff to work on. None are perfect, not even the rookie god stroud.

 

[strato]

24 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Why does Dalton have to come in for hail marys?  Can you name any other nfl starting qb that gets taken out for hail marys? 

So much evidence that has zero to do with the OL and WRs and play calling and a dozen other excuses. 

You don’t even need to see him play, if you just go by what they did, you are illuminated. 

People don’t resort to these measures when there are no issues. 

[jayboogieman]

19 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

The reason would be that they lose all the time.

That wasn't the reason people disliked Cam Newton or other QBs.

[Johnstonny]

21 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, the dumpster fire was literally because of everyone and everything except for Bryce Young. Keep believing that.

I don't think that anyone has tried to argue that Bryce was the only problem but your head had to be deep in the sand to not see that he was a big part of the problem. 

Think most of us know by now Bryce aint it ...and we're all holding on for something miraculous and to prove we've all been wrong.  Regardless, we'll see this year but not expecting anything good really...Just another year to hopefully prove Morgan is a legit GM.

[Johnstonny]

7 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

To me the hopping is the biggest hindrance.   You cannot waste time in the pocket by bouncing around trying to see the play and then correctly get your feet set and follow through on the throw.

Dipper fugged himself and us again by being the smartest man in the room...

[mrcompletely11]

44 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Every QB has stuff to work on. None are perfect, not even the rookie god stroud.

 

I thought we were talking about mechanics not "stuff" in general.  My bad.