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Smith Sr. & Zierlein discuss their top 10 WRs

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Smitty and Lance Zierlein see eye to eye on the top four, then they start diverging a little bit. It's an hour and 18 minutes. 

 

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https://youtu.be/LDzLS0viRX4?si=P5JkRNA8eqevnpHc

Again, if you like hearing about receivers, give it a listen. I know at this point that it's easy to get overwhelmed and/or simply tired of too many opinions. That being said, I found the discussion about some of the receivers pretty interesting. 

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Both have Nabers WR1, but you can't go wrong with Harrison or Odunze.

Smitty has Ladd at 8, Zierlein at 5. Smitty has Worthy at 5.

Sixth is AD who needs to work on route running. Zierlein said two ex-receivers that Smitty knows have expressed concerns (and, just guessing, it could be Keyshaun & Irving).

Legette is 9th. Which Legette are you getting?

Many of these receivers, including Odunze will have to play in specific roles for them to shine. 

Pearsall is 14th. He can play outside but eats in the slot.

 

The most interesting thing to me about watching these many analysts is that they all agree that where a guy is drafted and how he is deployed absolutely matters. It can make or break careers. Sure, you have some guys that can do it all, but those aren't as prevalent as we'd like to think, that's why putting guys in the best situations to succeed is so crucial. At the same time, you may not even know all the guy can do based upon the offense he was in on the collegiate level, so you at least have to explore the possibility that he can do more. Coaching is so important. 

 

 

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Coaching is key but also beyond that and fitting them to the right scheme and role is pairing them with the right QB.

Whichever receiver we draft people are going to have to be very patient. This is not an ideal situation overall for a rookie wideout.

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I watched it this afternoon and I thought some of the best discussions was before it even got to the players.

One thing that really jumped out to me was when Smitty was asked about how things have changed since he played and the thing he talked about was how when he played and going back to Jerry Rice says, the #1 targeted or looked to receiver was always the X and there's still a lot of people who's minds are still stuck in that idea. But what has happened is that the, what he calls, the F receiver...the flanker...is now the go to guy. You need the X to try and get safeties out of the box, but the QB is now looking for his flanker most of the time.

Lots of good discussions all through it, but for some reason the ones involving Ladd, Corley, and Leggette was the most interesting. Ladd was how he may be best fit for just the slot, but he's the best slot guy in the draft and he's just a guy who gets open and doesn't drop the ball. Corley and Leggette are playmakers who are at a risk of being pigeonholed. Leggette is too stiff to be a slot guy but he can do things like Metcalf. Corley is likely to be used much as he was in college, as the big playmaker you just get the ball in his hands however you can, but he's got a lot of room for development as a receiver.

It's just good football talk all the way through

 

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47 minutes ago, frankw said:

Coaching is key but also beyond that and fitting them to the right scheme and role is pairing them with the right QB.

Whichever receiver we draft people are going to have to be very patient. This is not an ideal situation overall for a rookie wideout.

Any QB worth his weight in gold is going to get his guys the ball. Of course he has to have the protection, coaching and experience to do that. Moreover, it has yet to be determined what type of situation this is for a rookie wideout. The most important thing that will determine that is coaching.

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I like that they basically put Ladd and Pearsall side by side despite where they had them ranked overall. I actually think Pearsall would be better at contested catches and yac when it comes to breaking a tackle or taking on contact. Ladd does a good job of getting open underneath but dances a little too much for my taste if we're talking about finding a DAWG

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I was very surprised that they had Pearsall rated so low.  To me, he is around #6.  I personally think that he is perhaps the best day 2 candidate and would fit our needs if you look into 2025 and beyond.  Smart, a great athlete (won nearly every category at the combine), has excellent hands and runs good routes.  Am I missing something?

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1 hour ago, Fenrir said:

Very deep WR class. I think there are very good players sprinkled among the 4th-5th round ranges as well. Barker from UCF, Thrash from UL, etc. 

i'd honestly be shocked if Baker makes it out of the 3rd round. He's one of those guys that hasn't had a lot said about in the media, but teams are very well aware of and aren't discussing. Pearsall is kind of one of those guys...i mean the media has talked about him some, but teams aren't talking about him either, even though they are definitely interested. Pearsall might not make it out of the 2nd round.

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I was very surprised that they had Pearsall rated so low.  To me, he is around #6.  I personally think that he is perhaps the best day 2 candidate and would fit our needs if you look into 2025 and beyond.  Smart, a great athlete (won nearly every category at the combine), has excellent hands and runs good routes.  Am I missing something?

you're thinking the same thing i am, and not just by these two. he's one of the top 4 slot(ish) guys i hope we get...with Ladd, Corley, and Malik Washington. Give me any of those 4 and a X(ish) type WR who can stretch the field and i think we're good.

oh...and a TE.

and another RB who is a thumper and decent receiving option. 

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5 minutes ago, rayzor said:

you're thinking the same thing i am, and not just by these two. he's one of the top 4 slot(ish) guys i hope we get...with Ladd, Corley, and Malik Washington. Give me any of those 4 and a X(ish) type WR who can stretch the field and i think we're good.

oh...and a TE.

and another RB who is a thumper and decent receiving option. 

Well damn, talking about offensive...

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